Andrew,

PADI, PDIC, SSI, all the same... With the small difference that PADI is what
those others dream to be.
In fact that does not really matter anymore now, since GUE arrived.

Best,

THOMAS

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew <andrewg@fi*.co*>
To: Einar Hagen <einar.hagen@un*.co*>; <:sherwood@st*.lr*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: DUI rock boots and other PADI stuff


> Bob this guys name is Einar.
>
> And boy does he snivels.
>
>  So really EINAR, you are trying to be a good diver. Wow, first thing's
> first quit the sniveling. Suck it up and learn from the best not an
> organization that is destroying the diving industry by self perpetuating
> it's name and selling books and C-Cards to everyone. Rather than trying to
> "do it right", teach people the right way to dive, develop a divers skills
> so they are not relying on a crutch,  they would rather certify everyone
> even if it meant giving them a crutch like ankle weights. (People can
become
> PADI advanced divers with 8 dives under their belt.) If you wear the right
> equipment you don't need a crutch. Rather than teaching students to dive
> with a band aid, you should take the time to develop a divers skills so
they
> are not reliant on equipment that hinders their performance. (gear such a
> bondage wings and ankle weights). When teaching a potential diver,  don't
> just certify some one in 4 ow dives or give them a drysuit course with one
> openwater dive or even worse give them their advanced card with 8 dives
> under their belts. Read a PADI ow book and tell me that is a thorough
class.
> Please. It is so distilled they barely learn anything.
>
> The comment I was making was that PADI divers have a way of associating
> everything with PADI. Such as a PADI buddy and a PADI advanced Class and a
> PADI Ankle Weights. PADI is a marketing outfit that is trying to Brand
name
> diving the "PADI way". So as I do not know you personally or you're
ability
> I can not say that you are a good or a bad diver whether or not you are a
> PADI instructor or not means a hell a beans different to me.
>
>  I  teach Openwater Class, in fact I taught 9 ow classes in 1999 and
certify
> divers at every level including all the GUE levels. That doesn't make me
> brilliant but it gives a great foundation on which I am make my point. My
> point is that PADI is destroying the diving industry by banging students
out
> as fast as they can so they can sell more PADI c-cards and PADI patches
and
> their PADI diplomas, all this  at the expense of teaching them to do it
> right, the right way from the get go.
>
> How many people do you know out there are now trying to discover and learn
> GUE and DIR? Tons.
> How many are experienced divers that feel they need more information and a
> better standard of training? All.
> My point is why bring them in,  teach 'em wrong, then let 'em go out and
> discover the right way to do it later.
> This sounds S..... well PADI likes it. They get to sell more C-Cards. PADI
> please give us a break they are only interested in PADI
>
> Andrew Georgitsis
> PDIC Instructor Trainer
> SSI Instructor Certifier
> GUE Instructor through level 3
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Einar Hagen <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
> To: Bob Sherwood <sherwood@st*.lr*.co*>
> Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: DUI rock boots
>
>
> >Bob.
> >
> >So if u dont know people they r no good?
> >Andrews comment on Padi instructors (he implied that we were all no good
> >divers, incompetents taking advantage of the gullible public) was hurtful
> to
> >me.
> >
> >The Padi instructors i know, all teach people to dive to the best of
their
> >ability,
> >and they r doing a fine job. Granted not all of them could do 70 meters
for
> >20
> >minutes, but neither could all the guys on techdiver. I am here to learn
> how
> >to
> >do this right, and I take generalisations about my ability personal, as
do
> a
> >lot of
> >the others here. And my name is Einar.......
> >
> >
> >Einar
> >
> >> Einer
> >>   I don't think you know who you are messing with, The fact that I
don't
> >> even know who you are tells me that you aren't even fit to carry
Andrew's
> >> stage bottles to the water so BACK OFF
> >> Bob Sherwood   607-748-7565.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Einar Hagen <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
> >> To: Andrew <andrewg@fi*.co*>
> >> Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> Date: Saturday, December 25, 1999 1:00 AM
> >> Subject: Re: DUI rock boots
> >>
> >>
> >> >> See Walter.
> >> >>
> >> >> 15 PADI instructors don't wear PADI ankle weights on their PADI
> >drysuits.
> >> >We
> >> >> should respect them as good divers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrew
> >> >
> >> >Fuck you!!!
> >> >
> >> >The fact that i am a Padi instructor does not make me a bad diver.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Einar
> >> >
> >> >
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