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John, I will have to admit to a lack of knowledge in the area of trimix diving. I have been certified through one of the "stroke" agencies bashed about on this list (and rightly so on most cases) through Nitrox only. I did not want to try to sound like an expert in areas where I am talking out of an orifice that is not my mouth... My response was intended to further the discussion of gas choices only. As for the rest, I have seen the light that I am a card carrying stroke and want to correct that situation. BTW George, does GUE have any instructors in the midwest? Regards, Don -----Original Message----- From: Taylor, John [mailto:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:56 PM To: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' Subject: RE: Deco question Tee Hee, don't you just love responses like this? 1) Doesn't address the question. 2) Assumes I am diving the profiles I want to discuss, when I didn't say had or ever will, thereby: 3) Patronising with respect to some assumed misunderstanding of correct diving practice. C'mon Don, answer the question (if you can ....) BTW, thanks Greg (Roach) who got the point of the question straight off the bat, I'll reply privately to your mail when I've thought your answer through a bit more. -- John Taylor CREDIT | FIRST SUISSE | BOSTON Equity Derivatives and Convertibles Unit * +852 2101 6927 (Office) * +852 2101 7698 (Fax) * +852 9031 6395 (Mobile) * mailto:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk* * mailto:live4diving@ho*.co* > -----Original Message----- > From: Mcinnis, Don [SMTP:Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*] > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 8:40 PM > To: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > Subject: FW: Deco question > > Nitrox 21, hmmm that sounds familiar... Oh yeah, it's called AIR. First > off, > why are you using such a low "mix" for your second dive. If it is because > it > is too deep for higher percentages of O2 then you should be doing another > trimix dive. Otherwise bump up the amount of O2 in the second dive. This > will lower the overall N2 loading for the two dives considerably. > > Regards, > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, John [mailto:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*] > Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 10:16 PM > To: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > Subject: Deco question > > > Dear list, > > Lets say I do a trimix dive followed by a nitrox dive. I'll use 14/50 for > my > trimix dive, and some time later, I'll use Nitrox 21 for my second dive. > > My tissues ongas Helium and Nitrogen during the trimix dive. During the > deco > for this dive, the helium loading disappears quickly, so, effectively, the > limiting factor for final exit from the water becomes the nitrogen > loading. > > Using Buhlmann ZHL-16B, it appears that the oxygen fraction in the mix is > largely irrelevant (bear with me at this point!). In most implementations > I > have seen, the Fo2 is only used to determine which deco gas to use (i.e. > the > one which, if used, would not cause the selected Max PPo2 to be exceeded). > Also, the implementations I have seen simply add the He and N2 loadings > together. > > Would the residual N2 tissue loading be the same after my mix dive as if > I'd > dived the same profile on Eanx 64? > > Could I consider the (equivalent) N2 gas loading only when planning my > second (nitrox) dive? > > JT > -- > John Taylor > CREDIT | FIRST > SUISSE | BOSTON > Equity Derivatives and Convertibles Unit > * +852 2101 6927 (Office) > * +852 2101 7698 (Fax) > * +852 9031 6395 (Mobile) > * mailto:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk* > * mailto:live4diving@ho*.co* > > > > > This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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