The reason that I mentioned it that day was because I was remembering a
couple of years earlier where I forgot to plug in and you didn't
completely zip the inner zipper before closing the outer zipper. As you
will recall, we both laughed about it afterwards and you made a joke about
diving Wakulla after a long layoff is like flying a 747 to Australia
after a 6 month layoff. "Yeah, I know how to do this."

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:

> JR, I can still hear your words last weekend, "Make sure you are
> connected", as you walked by me,  so I check the argon, and then pissed
> on myself. Thinking with the wrong head , again. The only reason I did
> not connect is that I was surrounded the whole time I was gearing up.
> 
> 
> John R. Rose wrote:
> > 
> > The dry suit check entails a single hose connection for many of us.
> > 1) Make sure your argon hose is connected
> > 2) Make sure your everboard discharge hose is connected
> > 
> > #2 Never happens on WKPP dives. ;-)
> > 
> > In warm cave water it is easy enough to fix (1) however, if you test
> > the overboard discharge without being connected, the only good way to
> > recover is to change thinsulate and drysuit.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Capt JT wrote:
> > 
> > > Although I consider the dry suit Ck as part of the gearing up process, it
> > > needs to be mentioned.For me the connecting of the hose is most important,
> > > it is very hard to connect the hose with 5m gloves on while in the water.I
> > > have done it as my back up is the standard inflator hose on my BC, which
> > > means my dry suit must have a standard hose connection.I also use an
> > > independent inflation system for my dry suit.I do not believe in an extra
> > > hose for a backup.I once saw a diver on one of my Doria trips jump off the
> > > boat and a hose blew when he hit the water, he had so much crap on him he
> > > could not find which one it was and shut the valve, his dive was over as
he
> > > lost his gas and came back on the boat.Think about that if it would have
> > > happen on the bottom.What good is the extra hose if it is part of the
problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks David, just like on the boat your always watching.
> > >
> > >
> > >   At 05:24 PM 12/26/99 -0500, David B. Widen wrote:
> > > >JT
> > > >
> > > >One of the steps that we all do is the connecting and testing of the dry
> > > >suit inflation. After diving with you many times, I know you tend to do
it
> > > >in there before step 5.
> > > >
> > > >David
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 12:10 PM
> > > > > To: kirvine@sa*.ne*; Marcin Piekarski
> > > > > Cc: nforcer1; Techdiver
> > > > > Subject: Re: Who is nforcer1??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As I read this, the memory of Tony Smith came to mind.Just
> > > > > when we began to
> > > > > think we are so good, the basics will kill us.The entry,
> > > > > decent ,ascent,
> > > > > are the parts of the dive that  will most likely kill you,
> > > > > the bottom part
> > > > > of the dive is really the safe part to me.Below is list of
> > > > > things I do.I am
> > > > > open for comments that can help, I am always willing  to listen.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) DO NOT be in a hurry gearing up
> > > > > 2)once seated in full gear just set and relax a second
> > > > > 3) take a breath off of each reg do not keep it in your mouth
> > > > > if it is a
> > > > > hypoxic mix
> > > > > 4)Check pressure gauge, if lower than at start the valve is not open
> > > > > (I like to open my valves while seated and geared up, proves
> > > > > to myself that
> > > > > I can do it)
> > > > > NO ONE touches my valves but ME
> > > > > 5)Drink water and relax a second
> > > > > 6)check everything before you stand
> > > > > 7)If there is a current use a travel mix( when using a hypoxic mix)
> > > > > 8)if not a hypoxic mix use back gas, avoid using travel mix
> > > > > when possible,
> > > > > it will just give you something else you have to deal with
> > > > > and can do wrong
> > > > > 9)Put the reg. in your mouth just before you jump in
> > > > > 10) make it to the down line and stop -relax a second
> > > > > 11)look at the safety diver or buddy exchange OK
> > > > > 12) when you make it to the bottom pause for a moment and
> > > > > collect yourself
> > > > > , look at your surroundings and make assessments.
> > > > >
> > > > >   At 08:22 AM 12/26/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > > > > >Marcin, whatever the case, you have to be able to get to
> > > > > those valves,
> > > > > >or to get the tanks lose enough to get to them. This is not
> > > > > so much in
> > > > > >the case of a failure, but in the case where you fail to turn them on
> > > > > >and get into the water.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I got so distracted the other day that I almost jumped in
> > > > > the ocean with
> > > > > >my backup reg behind me, and my primary reg jammed under my
> > > > > waistbelt. I
> > > > > >would not have been able to get to any gas other than my "third reg"
> > > > > >which is my inflator hose. If the valves were off, and I
> > > > > never checked,
> > > > > >it might have been a real trick figuring that one out before
> > > > > my eardrums
> > > > > >broke.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I do not mind drowning, but I would have hated to screw up
> > > > > in front of
> > > > > >an audience. The only reason I even noticed that I had no
> > > > > regs is that I
> > > > > >sat on one of them and it went off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >To top it off, none of the people on the boat even noticed
> > > > > any of this.
> > > > > >I would have had to drop down, flip my tanks off and put them back on
> > > > > >out of sight to save face, but my dive partner would have
> > > > > freaked, even
> > > > > >assuming that I did not try every other solution first and
> > > > > then not be
> > > > > >able to do it .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It just reminded me of how close we can get to as screwup
> > > > > with the wrong
> > > > > >gear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Work out that insulation and knob thing with the minimunm solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Marcin Piekarski wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Healthy critics is not the thing that can kill me but
> > > > > stupidity is the
> > > > > > > one. So thanks for straightening me up, on this. While
> > > > > writing to this
> > > > > > > group I knew that there might be flames and someone might
> > > > > say "no man,
> > > > > > > it's really stupid", and OK, if so. If something is
> > > > > stupid then I want
> > > > > > > to learn new better ways on doing it and stand with my
> > > > > head high while
> > > > > > > admitting that this stupidity comes from my lack of
> > > > > knowledge, for now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > nforcer1 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Note to Marcin: please don't take any of this as criticism of
> > > > > > you.  For all
> > > > > > > > any of us know, you might be in great shape, configured
> > > > > well and can
> > > > > > reach the
> > > > > > > > knobs with room to spare. Just asking the question
> > > > > makes you a great
> > > > > > candidate
> > > > > > > > for avoiding being the bad guy under Rules 1 and 2.
> > > > > Follow steps
> > > > > > 1-4, above,
> > > > > > > > and it will all fall in place for you.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PAlexakos@ao*.co* wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/23/1999 6:30:24 PM Eastern
> > > > > Standard Time,
> > > > > > > > > nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co* writes:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > << I'm not sure it matters, but I'll be glad to when I
have a
> > > > > > little more
> > > > > > > > > time.  I
> > > > > > > > >  didn't know a resume was required to state the
> > > > > obvious on a point
> > > > > > I think
> > > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > >  of us agree upon. >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sure,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     But when you are a tough guy, ready to suggest
> > > > > who is ready to
> > > > > > dive or
> > > > > > > > > not, we are all interested what your qualifications are.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Panos
> > > > > > > >
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