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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:58:45 -0500
To: "John McMillan." <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
CC: "Shimell, David (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>,
     "Gliviak, Jozef" , techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR question - weight system
You die like Parker did. We don't take our tanks off. Actaully, Parker
took his off and dragged them next to him to hold him down, and then
blacked out and blew to the ceiling when he cleared the restriction.

I have found you can not move forward very well agsinst a ceiling with
the tanks off in a drysuit unless there is plenty of room to push
yourself down, which means you do not need to take the tanks off. We
just do not do it. 

To weight ourselves with 22 additional pounds required to offset the
drysuit with C-4 would mean wings blown up like a Zodiac, and drag that
would be impossible. We rig for speed. Also, weightbelts on a drysuit ,
unless harness rigged with suspenders, are a nightmare, and again, we
rig for the real risks, not the phantom ghoasts in the closet. I make my
bet before I get in the water, and did so that day, and will continue to
bet that way or not dive. 

This is like the "how do you do your deco if a shark bites of the hand
with the bottom timer?" question. The answer is the same - "you don't".

John McMillan. wrote:
> 
> Hello guys.
> 
> I have a pertinent question. What happens to your personal buoyancy if and
> when you have to get out of your gear to negotiate a collapsed restriction?
> How are you going to maintain buoyancy control.
> 
> Hoo Roo
> Johnny Mack
> Down under
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shimell, David (shimell) <shimell@se*.co*>
> To: Gliviak, Jozef <Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:36 PM
> Subject: RE: DIR question - weight system
> 
> > Jozef
> >
> > Try some or all of the following:
> >
> > * Use a non compressible dry suit so that you don't need to carry the
> > weight in the first place.
> > * Carry a canister torch which can be used as a ditcheable weight
> > (3kg).
> > * Loosen your harness straps and tighten the crotch strap.  This will
> > move your centre of gravity down.
> > * Make an H-weight.
> >
> > The H-weight is two V-weights bolted together front and back of the
> twinset.
> > My H-weight of 5.5 Kg is only about 100 mm high and is bolted close to the
> > lower band, hence my H-weight pushes my centre of gravity lower than would
> be
> > the case if I used a V-weight.  BTW, I only use my H-weight for
> no-canister
> > torch twinset diving in salt. I always take in my canister torch for
> proper
> > diving, so don't use the H-weight these days.
> >
> > David Shimell
> > Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*>
> > Project Manager, IBM NUMA-Q, Sequent Computer Systems Limited,
> > Weybridge Business Park, Addlestone Road, Weybridge, Surrey, KT15 2UF, UK
> > registered in England and Wales under company number: 1999363, registered
> > office as above
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gliviak, Jozef [SMTP:Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 3:58 PM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: DIR question - weight system
> >
> > As far as I could find out - according DIR there is no weight belt or
> > integrated weight system used. Only heavy backplate and weight between
> > tanks. I'm sure this works in warm water, but I had a bit of trouble
> testing
> > it in 4degrees celsius. With very heavy underwear to keep me warm I need
> > appx 8-9 Kg additional weight. When I attach it between tanks the centre
> of
> > weight is shifted upwards. This becomes a problem when looking to sides.
> The
> > centre of weight is too high and it tries to turn me. This was quite
> > uncomfortable feeling.
> > I would like to know how you solve this. As far as I know there are few
> cold
> > water divers here on the list.
> >
> > Best reagards
> >
> > Jozef Gliviak
> > Slovakia
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