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John, it is hard to believe but it explains a lot that happens later on in diving. NAUI calls it "primacy" - you believe what you learn first, and it sounds like they are sending the worng message right from the get go. John Walker wrote: > > I concur with you George. Its unfortunate that the industry breeds > divers this way, IGNORANT. And it's a shame that green divers are easily > given a credential to teach diving with the same IGNORANCE that was taught > to them. > > Early last week I was invited to give a presentation to a group of NAUI > O/W instructor candidates. Not realizing what lay ahead, I agreed to do so > on the spur of the moment. The course director had never approved of the > diving that I did, but I felt that she was truly interested in my sharing > something about technical diving. Man, was I wrong. > > I got to a point in the presentation where I shared with the group how > several techniques used in technical diving have became adaptable to > recreational diving to enhance safety. I explained how donating the reg > from the mouth of the donor to an out of air diver made a hell of a lot more > sense than teaching divers to give a silly ass signal and wait for the doner > to find the octopus attached to some off the wall location on his/her BCD > while the OOA diver starts to drown. > > The course director went off on me in attempt to make me look like the > stupid one. The funny thing is, it backfired on her. She looked like the > stupid one. She told me (and the instructor candidates) that if we taught > this technique that 50% of her students would drowned. If so, those 50% of > divers should never recieve a C-card. Don't we also teach to never dive > beyond our limits and beyond what we are taught? These divers should then > never be placed in a situation were this could happen, they should never be > placed in the water. She also said, "Screw the out of air diver, I'm not > the one who ran out of air. It's their problem." But at the same time she > pretends to promote the buddy system. > > I was flabbergasted that she was actually training INSTRUCTORS, who will > someday be responsible for taking the general public into a hazardous > invironment, with this sort of philosophy. It amazed me that she would > consider certifying a diver who could not survive if their own reg was > pulled from their mouth, but yet she teaches two different reg retrievals in > the water. Go figure! > > This is beyond sad. The breeding of this nonsense is progressing beyond > belief. Something needs to be done. People need to know the truth in order > to survive underwater, and they need to be taught realistic survival skills. > Dive training has to be focused on REAL LIFE diving, not fabricated > bullshit. Instructors resorting to this rediculous bullshit rather than REAL > LIFE diving needs should get a clue that THEY SHOULD NOT BE TEACHING DIVING. > > John > > >We have a serious problem in the dive training industry and in "tech" > > diving with the ignorance and moronity of the big mouths who have never > > "been there done that" except in their own minds in the most pathetic > > little weenie bounce diving do nothing way - none of these guys have > > been "Downtown" or played hardball and as such have no idea what the > > real story is. These people are influencing diving and that is why we > > have so many "unexplained" accidents. > > > > It behooves all of us in the WKPP and anyone else with a brain on their > > shoulders to get out there and counter the Pete hess's and other > > horrendous ignoramuses in diving in and out of the "training" agencies . > > We owe it to everyone to do this, since we have the real experience and > > know for certain what the problems are and can see why the deaths are > > stacking up. > > > > We are doing things underwater for years with a perfrect track record > > that none of these big mouths has ever or will ever do, and we need to > > have the confindence to point that out to everyone and to take the abuse > > from the Big Vons and other lowlifes and keep telling the story and keep > > refering to what we really do and what our scorecard looks like, and > > save some lives in the process. > > > > You have all seen the extreme measure that some of the training agency > > jerks have gone to in order to try to discredit me and the WKPP, and you > > constantly see the viciousness of the attacks out of the > > representatives of these agencies and the deep air or bullshit equipment > > crowd. We are blowing the whistle on all of them, and that is why. We > > need to have the same tanacity that they do . > > > > There is no reason to ever be polite to a dangerous idiot, and there is > > no reason not to step all over them with the facts every last time they > > stick their heads up, I would appreciate it if more of our members would > > take the time to teach other people the truth, and to kick some of these > > strokes right in the ass publicly whenever you can with extreme > > prejudice. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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