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John Todd sez:

> Thank you for your concern.  It has been tough for Todd and his younger
> brother Ted.  Their parents were killed by two drunk drivers who, as fate
> would have it, were lawyers on their way home from some kind of social in
> North Central Florida.  I had already gone off to college and Richard was in
> the Navy Seal's.  His dream was to start a dive shop once he got out like the
> rest of his buddies did.  The two youngest Todd's were raised by their sister
> (whatever you do, don't get her pissed!) and sometimes they get a little out
> of hand.

Not to be TOO insensitive about this, but welcome to the club. I wonder how
many on here have had worse happen to them and NOT had a Tourette's Syndrome
attack? I have things in my past, distant and not too distant, that are
tragic. Losses in my family recently and over the last few years, the loss
of my Mother when I was 2, but somehow I've managed to get over it without
exorcising my rage in public. It's disgusting to me that something that
happened so far in their past should be used as an excuse for immature
behavior now. I'm sorry for what happened to them, but it's time to grow up
and get over it, most others have.
 
Then Peter sez:

> Do you know either Susan or Bill?  They are both excellent divers--as
> indeed, are nearly all of those of us who actually try to pick up useful
> knowledge from this list only to incur the wrath of the Irvinites.  Do you
> know how many hundreds of people who have quit this list and despise the
> whole lot of the WKPPers for their egotistical insensitivities?  In spite of
> his underwater accomplishments, most divers think that George and his
> syncophants are unadulterated pricks.  And this is from mostly people who
> have never met him.  I do not share this opinion but can only remain
> ambivalent to George as I too, have not met him.

This broad-brush approach is BS too. I consider myself, in a sense, an
"Irvinite." I believe in what he's tried to accomplish towards safety and
diving sense. I practice much of what he preaches. I've met he and much of
his team and I consider them to be good folks for the most part. I suggest
that you remark on what you know and separate the online immaturity and
insult from the advice and dive reports. It doesn't do you any good to have
a continual case of the ass for the WKPP'ers because of some bad behavior
online. It keeps you from being engaged and contributing intelligently and
it's ultimately distracting. When George says SMD, just ask where and when
and move on. You might find areas of common ground and you may even find a
comment or two funny yourself. A sense of humor is paramount to happy (but
not necessarily contented) survival on Techdiver. The alternative is
elevated blood pressure and a sour disposition. Besides, it's Christmas,
Ebeneezer, be of good cheer! <seg>

Merry Xmas, 

JoeL

PS--John-I didn't find Peter's note on the Techdiver list, so I assume it
was a private note you posted publicly.

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