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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>
Subject: Re: Big Von is a trimix instructor?
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:03:23 -0800
Heh. I know a PADI OW instructor (one of the worst, even for PADI) that has
a TDI Nitrox Instructor shingle, and has never drawn a breath of the stuff.
He spent 8 hours in a class room, and came out with a TDI Instructor
shingle. No dives. Immediately after getting his shingle, I asked him to do
a simple MOD calculation for me, and he blew it three times. Had to look at
a chart. Nuff said.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Big Von is a trimix instructor?


> On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 19:07:34 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >It's no secret, I am a TDI instructor trainer. Anytime any of you guys
want to
> >make a dive let me know. You bring your setup and I'll bring mine.
> >Von
>
> I just got this e-mail/newsletter from Steve Gerrard today that mentioned
TDI. I
> heard the TDI was the worst agency to learn anything from, but these
examples
> seem to prove the point beyond any doubt.
>
> ******************
>
> TDI  BOYCOTT
>
> Whoa!  Boycott?   That's the strong word I'm getting from many cave
> Instructors, cave divers, dive stores and businesses here in the Riviera
> Maya and in Florida!   Apparently, more individuals have become TDI Cave
> Instructors during the past year.   This past week, Joe Odom was staying
in
> Akumal conducting a TDI Cavern & Cave Instructor IEC for a group of seven
> candidates.   What is making everyone upset is some of the individuals
lack the
> proper cave diving experience in general and everyone questions if these
seven
> candidates have ever assisted with cavern and cave courses to qualify
attending
> the IEC as established and agreed by all agencies offering cavern & cave
> Instructor certifications.  I am told that at the 1999 DEMA Trade Show in
New
> Orleans there was a meeting between the Training Directors and Chairmen of
the
> NACD, NSS-CDS, IANTD and TDI and that these four agencies would adhere to
follow
> minimum standards.  Joe Odom promised he would follow these standards.
>
> An example is a fellow named Jose Barbi who lives in Cozumel.  Jose told
me
> months ago he has assisted with the required minimum two cavern courses
> with German Mendoza to qualify for the TDI IEC. German tells me Jose has
> never assisted with any cavern courses.   So what is going on?
>
> Personally, I'm still upset with the fiasco of 1998 when Joe appointed Al
> Pertner a TDI Cave Instructor Trainer in February, 1998.  The problem was
> AL certified several individuals as TDI Cave Instructors and these people
> had less than 50 logged cave dives and no or little experience assisted
> with cavern and cave courses.  Plus, they never went through the process
of
> teaching cavern courses, building experience, then becoming Introduction
To
> Cave Instructors, teaching a few of those types of courses and then
> qualifying to attend a Full Cave TDI IEC.   It got so bad they that TDI
> revoked Al's Instructor Trainer certification.    Everyone along the
> Riviera Maya was calling it Easy Al's TDI Express machine.
>
> Here's an example:   I certified Nicholai Toussaint and a full cave diver
> during late October, 1997.  The summer of 1998, Nicholai becomes a TDI
Full
> Cave Instructor and was one the evaluators for the TDI IEC
> during December 2nd - 5th, 1999.
> Another individual I certified as a full cave diver was Scott Bonis.
Scott
> is an engineer retired from the NASA Apollo Space program.   He travels
> around the United States and Mexico in his RV with his wife.
> He spends every winter in Paalmu Beach campground until this year where he
> bought a condo in Puerto Aventuras.  He became a TDI Full Cave Instructor
> the summer of 1998.  How does anyone acquire the necessary experience in
> underwater caves with that type of schedule?
>
> Matt Matthes wrote a message recently on the Internet caver's list voicing
> his concern as he familiar with several of the candidates in the local TDI
> IEC.   Like I said, everyone is pissed and the word boycott is being
stated
> everywhere.    German Mendoza is a TDI Cave Instructor (and NACD) and he
> wrote a very strong letter to Brett Gilliam - President & Owner of TDI
> voicing his concern with this problem.   Now, don't get me wrong, I don't
> think anyone is against these or any individuals in becoming cavern or
cave
> Instructors.   It's just must be done correctly following the standards
> established within the cavern and cave diving community.  Does this make
> sense?  Enough said!
>
>
> --
> The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.
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