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From: "Rich Lesperance" <richl@uf*.ed*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Karen Nakamura" <karen@gp*.co*>
Subject: Re: Experiment: Purge inflating
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:31:57 -0500
Karen,

The lungs are not a balloon, nor are they a condom.

If the human lungs were constructed of latex, your analogy might hold.
Sometimes, however, analogies fail, and we must rely on experience.

So here I am, a humble student of diving, trying to figure out what is the
safest and most effective method. On one hand, I have your analogy of
blowing up condoms with your reg. On the other hand, I have the experience
of an anesthesiologist who actually did this on a patient, and reported it
worked fine.

So, I wonder which answer I'll choose?

Rich L



----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Nakamura <karen@gp*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 7:33 PM
Subject: Experiment: Purge inflating


> Folks -
>
> There's been a lot of medical evidence against purge inflating an
> unconcious, non-breathing drown victim. The proponents of this dangerous
> practice haven't presented any evidence to the contrary. Nonetheless,
there
> are still some folks who think it's both safe and practical.
>
> Here's an experiment to try in the safety of your own home. You will need:
>
>   * Condom or large-mouth balloon
>   * Scuba regulator and tank (air is fine)
>
> Blow the condom/balloon up once or twice with your own breaths. Notice the
> size and shape. The condom will inflate so that it's almost balloon shaped
> when you've given it a good full breath.
>
> Now put the mouth of the condom over your regulator's mouthpiece. Now, try
> to inflate the condom. If you don't have your hand over the regulator
vents,
> the condom will become ... well ... semi-erect, but it won't balloon up to
> full lung size since there isn't sufficient pressure. In order to get
> sufficient pressure, you have to close the mouthpiece vents, but this is
> much more difficult than it appears and it's hard to get enough coverage
> over the vents at the same time as applying just the right amount of
> pressure to the purge valve.
>
> You'll get one of two results most of the time:  an underinflated condom
> (lung) or overinflated, burst condom (lung).
>
> Now imagine trying to do this at the same pace as you'd be giving rescue
> breaths. Try imagine doing this while towing someone in the water. It just
> isn't very practical either in or out of the water.
>
> This isn't even the full picture, in real life you'd also have to worry
about:
>   * Making sure the mouthpiece seal is secure
>   * Making sure the victim's airway is open and clear
>   * Lung inflations aren't as visible as a condom inflating
>
> Conclusion: take a rescue/CPR/O2 course and stick to what you know.
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