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To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: <bigvon@be*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:30:11 +0000
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Making Asses


kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:

> Bill Von Haene, when you can show us anything that is an "
> improvement" to DIR and have it make sense, I will kiss your ass.
>

Sorry George unlike you I am not interested in ass kissing.


>
> I have "psycological problems"? You are a liar, an idiot and a dangerous
> stroke who has no business dispensing advice on anything. Your idea of
> safe is steel with a wetuit because you just can get the real story
> straight.
>

Many divers have successfully been using the redundant BC's for years George,
well
before you came along. Just because it threatens your DIR, don't get your
panties in a
wad.


>  You have lied on here about your dives, lied about the depth , lied
> about the temperature, lied about everything else to do wtih it. You
> have lied about me, about the WKPP and about WKPP team members. You are
> a liar, and nothing you say can be believed.
>

If I have lied, then George you are the all time bullshit artist. Just because
you will
not make deep dives wet with steels does not mean it cannot be done safely.You
are
without a doubt the biggest pussy on this list. (Oh my God are you going to sue
me
now?)
You will not post your gear or gas although you say you DO make these dives.Why?
Because you know you have to dive dry, or else use redundant BC's due to the gas
constraints. (Or you can continue your bullshit about your superior respiratory
rate.)

I am tired, as I know everyone else is, of this thread. But for the record you
have not
come up with any reason not make these dives other than to say DIR will not
allow it
because you are limited to eighties and forties..



>
>  You have made a fool out of yourself on here repeatedly, and to tell
> you the truth, it is  very hard for me to believe that you are a lawyer
> - you are just too stupid in my opinion.
>

At least I am not a sawed off prick megalomaniac.


>
>  When you have done as many wreck dives as I have, you can try to
> pretend I do not know what I am talking about - you already proved that
> you do not, and that what does come out of your mouth inbetween the
> inanity is nothing but fabrication.
>

Anytime you want to compare our wreck diving experience I am available asshole.
This is your typical bs line of misinformation you spew on this list.
It is no wonder more people do not post.
I am not intimidated by your tough guy bravado.
Von

> bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> >
> > Peter
> > Thanks for stating the obvious.
> > It's also obvious that George has some deep seated psychological problem
with any
> > opinion that differs from his own. He even carries this phobia into
discussions
> > on topics of which he has little or no expertise or formal training, such
as the
> > resuscitation issue.
> > Any valid point or discussion that might criticize or improve his precious
DIR
> > will not be tolerated.
> > George should stick to what he knows best, holes in the ground, and let the
real
> > ocean divers do what they know best.
> > Von
> >
> > HESSIANS@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > > MHKane accuses Bill Von Haene of "making an ass of himself" for having the
> > > termerity--and the diving credentials--to disagree with the WKPP Guru,
George
> > > Irvine.  Having regularly read the invective that the WKPP claims as an
> > > intelligent discourse on technical diving, I find it to be the height of
> > > hypocrisy for any Invine-ite to accuse someone else of making an ass of
> > > himself.
> > >
> > > Thousands of gifted technical divers have given up on this list because
the
> > > Irvine-ites refuse to divorce their mudslinging from practical, helpful
> > > information.  You guys do not have all the answers and DIR--which, by your
> > > own admission, is still evolving--is not the Manna from Heaven.
> > >
> > > Before y'all line up to flame me, pause for a moment (if this is possible)
> > > and consider how much more valuable this list would be if contrasting
> > > viewpoints were afforded the same respect that you seem to reserve
> > > exclusively for your champion.  Imagine the great divers who would
regularly
> > > be a part of such discussions.
> > >
> > > Sadly, this list is becoming nothing more than WKPP fans congrulating
> > > themselves on their (admittedly impressive) accomplishments.  We can do
much
> > > better than this.
> > > Peter Hess
> >
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