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The same reason that nurses in the best hospital in the United States,
surrounded by doctors and specialists, having read many medical texts, observed
countless operations, are not allowed to perform surgery.
Von
Jess Armantrout wrote:

> This was a fake right?  Please somebody tell me it was a fake.
>
> What, exactly, in your opinion, would qualify as expertise or formal
> training on the issue of in water resucitation in the ocean?  If George
> promises to take the PADI rescue diver course, will that satisfy you?
>
> I guess being married to a head trauma nurse, being surrounded by doctors in
> his work, social life and whom he trains with, having leading diving
> physicians from around the world calling to exchange information, having
> read and practically memorized most of the best diving physiolgy texts,
> having consulted with most of the big oil companies on diving protocals,
> being born and raised around the water, diving for more years than most
> anybody on this list, running the leading technical diving project in the
> world with some of the top military diving doctors coming around to see how
> he does things AND having access to Bill Mee,  doesn't count.
>
> You crack me up.
> Trout
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bigvon@be*.ne* <bigvon@be*.ne*>
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Making Asses
>
> >Peter
> >Thanks for stating the obvious.
> >It's also obvious that George has some deep seated psychological problem
> with any
> >opinion that differs from his own. He even carries this phobia into
> discussions
> >on topics of which he has little or no expertise or formal training, such
> as the
> >resuscitation issue.
> >Any valid point or discussion that might criticize or improve his precious
> DIR
> >will not be tolerated.
> >George should stick to what he knows best, holes in the ground, and let the
> real
> >ocean divers do what they know best.
> >Von
> >
> >
> >HESSIANS@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> >> MHKane accuses Bill Von Haene of "making an ass of himself" for having
> the
> >> termerity--and the diving credentials--to disagree with the WKPP Guru,
> George
> >> Irvine.  Having regularly read the invective that the WKPP claims as an
> >> intelligent discourse on technical diving, I find it to be the height of
> >> hypocrisy for any Invine-ite to accuse someone else of making an ass of
> >> himself.
> >>
> >> Thousands of gifted technical divers have given up on this list because
> the
> >> Irvine-ites refuse to divorce their mudslinging from practical, helpful
> >> information.  You guys do not have all the answers and DIR--which, by
> your
> >> own admission, is still evolving--is not the Manna from Heaven.
> >>
> >> Before y'all line up to flame me, pause for a moment (if this is
> possible)
> >> and consider how much more valuable this list would be if contrasting
> >> viewpoints were afforded the same respect that you seem to reserve
> >> exclusively for your champion.  Imagine the great divers who would
> regularly
> >> be a part of such discussions.
> >>
> >> Sadly, this list is becoming nothing more than WKPP fans congrulating
> >> themselves on their (admittedly impressive) accomplishments.  We can do
> much
> >> better than this.
> >> Peter Hess
> >
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