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At 05:08 26/11/99 , Esat Atikkan wrote: >How do U pinch the nose & extend the neck? >Safe bubbles >Esat Atikkan The other hand, I think. I've got to try it. Or the hand holding the reg goes under the neck first. I'm going to try out these methods. How would U do it? best rgrdz billyw >--- bdi@wh*.ne* wrote: > > At 01:31 25/11/99 , Esat Atikkan wrote: > > > > >BillyW writes: > > > > > > > I use a seahornet first stages with oceanic > > alpha > > > > seconds on my deco cylinders. > > > > > > > I can, with one hand, cover the exhaust T and > > hit > > > > the > > > > purge button. If you can't, change your reg or > > do > > > > some > > > > practice. > > > > > > >Relevance of 1st stage to ability to cover exhaust > > T > > >escapes me. > > > > Me too, since I wouldn't stick a reg in MY mouth, > > seal > > the exhaust ports and hit the purge button. But Ms > > Karen > > suggested one hand operation couldn't be done. SO I > > grabbed a reg and tried it. Here's how. > > > > The reg mouthpiece is pointing vertically down, my > > left hand is palm down on top, covering the, er, > > cover. > > My thumb is wrapped around the exhaust ports. I > > squeeze > > my hand to increase pressure on the purge button > > and Pfffffftttttt! Gas out of the moutpiece with a > > small > > bleed through the far port past the tip of my thumb. > > This > > could be a good thing. I can actually get my index > > finger > > there though. The hardest part is typing one-handed > > while > > I'm doing it. but it blew the dust out of my > > keyboard. > > > > >As for covering exhaust T & purging (@ < than full > > >blast) - R U extending the neck & pinching the > > >nostrils as well, or just circulating that blast of > > O2 > > >out the nostrils. If doing so while maintaining > > full > > >contact w/ the victim, then your dexterity is > > >phenomenol. > > > > I don;t have phenomenal dexterity, Esat, just an > > enquiring mind. I wnat to know how to get the 100% > > 02 > > I and the victim are carrying into the victim's > > lungs ASAP without popping any alveoli. > > > > Now I can work the reg one-handed, I'm on to > > figuring > > out how to orient myself and stay in contact with > > the > > victim. > > > > I think I can figure how long to hit the purge for, > > (I tested it to see how long it takes to get a > > lungfull > > on me. I'd give it about 75% of that) SO I know > > how it > > should work with MY 02 reg. And I figure it's better > > to > > kick-start them with the reg if possible and then > > let > > them breath off it. > > > > I also want to know the physical aspects of the > > nasal cavity and the back of the trhoat - how do > > the nostrils work as a pressure-relief valve and > > do I need to partially occlude them? > > > > I have no argument with anyone except those who > > would > > say NO per se (the two paramedics), without > > reference to > > the mechanics of doing it. Who decides the protocols > > > > THEY are capable of administering? They don't. WHy > > should > > they decide for me? Understand though, I think the > > paramedics do a hell of a job at the very sharpest > > end, and do it superbly. > > > > I note that the copied extract from John Lippmann's > > comments indicates a problem area of lpm & > > overpressure > > injuries. If one sees them as challenges instead of > > prohibitions, then progress can be made. I just want > > some creative input, not a rote-learned no. U must > > appreci8 this more than most. > > > > >Plz explain wh/ fingers R doing what exactly as I > > >would like to try the technique > > > > 2 fingers of mi rite h& R typing & mi left h& is > > purging the reg PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!!! oh there it > > goes > > again! This is gr8! > > > > > > rgrdz 2U Es@ billyw > > > > > > > > >TIA > > >Safe bubbles > > > > > >Esat Atikkan > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in > > one place. > > >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > >-- > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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