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From: "Grant Jones" <grant@ow*.fr*.co*.uk*>
To: "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re:legalities of purging someone
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:43:32 -0000
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billy wrote:

>No Grant. That's one handed administration of positive
>pressure 02 vs. two-handed EAR. You do know what EAR is?

    You still don't explain how you would: hold the reg in the mouth, =
extend
the neck, seal the nose, purge the reg and tow the victim with only one
hand.

>I dout one would need to seal the exhausts completely.
>And I want to know whether it's necessary to seal the
>nostrils

    So, lets get this right - you haven't actually carried out this
procedure in the water, yet you can come on here and tell us all how to =
do
it?
    If you try it in water, you will find that the nose has to be =
sealed,
because with out the neck extension, and some times even with it the 02 =
will
follow the path of less resistance and come out via the nose

>No, I haven't tried it in the water. You are seeing me
>figure the process out. Then I will try it. Then if I
>ever need to use it, I will be able to.

    Ah, I can see your reasoning now, so by the same method, all those =
books
and videos that I've seen on trimix diving, means that if I ever need to =
use
it, I will be able to ?

>You obviously missed (or failed to understand) the first
>part of the thread where two paramedics said it mustn't
>be done - one must accept the fact that the 02 we carry
>can't be administered to a non-breathing victim in the
>water. I disputed that.

    I missed nothing, apart from some plonker who came on here to tell =
us
all how to do some thing, that he's never even tried, in the water. =
Irvine
is basing what he's saying on having actually done it, you on the other =
hand
are basing all your assumptions on the fact that you can do it sitting =
in
front of your PC.

    In the right hands, or situation then using a reg to deliver 02 (or
nitrox) can be a life saver, and I would carry it out if it was needed, =
but
then again billy, I've actually practised it.

    Grant


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<DIV>billy wrote:<BR><BR>>No Grant. That's one handed
administration =
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positive<BR>>pressure 02 vs. two-handed EAR. You do know what EAR=20
is?<BR><BR>    You still don't explain how you would: =
hold the=20
reg in the mouth, extend<BR>the neck, seal the nose, purge the reg and =
tow the=20
victim with only one<BR>hand.<BR><BR>>I dout one would need to seal
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the=20
exhausts completely.<BR>>And I want to know whether it's necessary to =
seal=20
the<BR>>nostrils<BR><BR>    So, lets get this right
- =
you=20
haven't actually carried out this<BR>procedure in the water, yet you can =
come on=20
here and tell us all how to do<BR>it?<BR>    If you try =
it in=20
water, you will find that the nose has to be sealed,<BR>because with out =
the=20
neck extension, and some times even with it the 02 will<BR>follow the =
path of=20
less resistance and come out via the nose<BR><BR>>No, I haven't tried =
it in=20
the water. You are seeing me<BR>>figure the process out. Then I will =
try it.=20
Then if I<BR>>ever need to use it, I will be able=20
to.<BR><BR>    Ah, I can see your reasoning now, so by =
the same=20
method, all those books<BR>and videos that I've seen on trimix diving, =
means=20
that if I ever need to use<BR>it, I will be able to ?<BR><BR>>You =
obviously=20
missed (or failed to understand) the first<BR>>part of the thread =
where two=20
paramedics said it mustn't<BR>>be done - one must accept the fact =
that the 02=20
we carry<BR>>can't be administered to a non-breathing victim in=20
the<BR>>water. I disputed that.<BR><BR>    I missed =
nothing,=20
apart from some plonker who came on here to tell us<BR>all how to do =
some thing,=20
that he's never even tried, in the water. Irvine<BR>is basing what he's =
saying=20
on having actually done it, you on the other hand<BR>are basing all your =

assumptions on the fact that you can do it sitting in<BR>front of your=20
PC.<BR><BR>    In the right hands, or situation then =
using a reg=20
to deliver 02 (or<BR>nitrox) can be a life saver, and I would carry it =
out if it=20
was needed, but<BR>then again billy, I've actually practised=20
it.<BR><BR>    Grant<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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