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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:21:32 -0500
To: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
CC: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Legalities of purging someone
DR. B, most of what we are seeing in the way of discussiosn by
"professionals" regarding rescusitation are NON DIVING SITUATIONS. What
is being left out here is the likelyhood that we have decompression or
embolism problems to deal with in addition to the drowning, and in those
cases, you really need the oxygen and need it to be delivered by demand
reg, and then you also need a very fast recovery of the victim as you
may now need to get him back down. Now it gets serious.

In the case of Nakamura, I could save her right on the boat by
confiscating her dive gear. I feel badly about her becuase she is likely
sombody who could be taught the real life game if it were not for the
slop she has obviously been shown by the agency half wits along with the
preconceived notion that WKPP and I are some evil entity. When people
badmouth usd they leave out the track record and try to appeal to a
newcomer's lack of experience to argue how we are wrong. 

Anyone and everyone who dives for real eventually finds out that we are
not wrong at all, and not anything like what the goobers and boat
monkeys say we are.

Michael J. Black wrote:
> 
> It looks to me like both camps are right, depending
> on the situation.  Nakamura et al. choose to wait for
> professional assistance in spite of the consequences.
> Irvine et al. choose to administer a technique that
> has worked for them.  Both choices would be defensible
> in court.  Personally, if I were drowning and George
> were my buddy, I would prefer his approach, especially
> if the boat and rescue team were not immediately
> available.  If Karen communicates to George before-
> hand that under no circumstances does she want to be
> rescued by purging, then George had better not attempt
> this, regardless of the consequences for Karen.  Also,
> consider what the "community standard" is in your
> particular area.  In the medical profession, if you
> act within your community standard, your case becomes
> solidly defensible, even if the victim's outcome is
> not optimal.  Lawyers can complicate matters as much
> as they want to, but it still helps to act in good
> faith, don't violate the victim's known wishes, and
> practice within your community standard.
> 
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