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Again, I live here, I dive here , and that has been true for years. Again, you are full of shit. We have been over this - 80's with a wetsuit, but then after trying this once or twice I am not that stupid anymore, since the bottom can be so cold as to kill the dive off completely and so I wear a drysuit with either type tanks - al or steels. The insulation is C-2, not the C-4 for that purpose. Other than items idiosycratic to ocean diving being added in to the mix, nothing is different. You have never done a real dive in your life, and certainly nothing on the order of what I do for exposures, you do not have a fraction of my decompression knowledge or data, and are talking out of your ass in this regard, once again. Look at the Britannic URL's I put out, and round up those guys and tell them they could not have done the dives they did , or watch the TV show. Bill ( Von, or whatever yor name is) - you have no clue what you are talking about on any subject on this list so far - you have a perfect track record. bigvon@be*.ne* wrote: > > Obviously George you have never made a deep dive in the summer in the Caribbean > or you would understand. > You still have not posted your tank/gas configuration diving wet w/out scooter at > 300 much less 350, for 25 to 30 min.. > What are you so afraid of? > That there is an instant when DIR might not be exactly as the great George > Grapevine dictates? > DIR does work in most instances. However there might, just might be an > alternative that is safer for the longer exposures at depth. i.e. redundant bc' > for gas availability. > By the way, studies have shown that one long exposure may be safer than two > shorter ones. > Von > kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > > > Bill, you are not only dangerous ,you are an outright liar. There is no > > ocean on this planet where the water at "350" is warm. The Britannic is > > cold as would be expected at depth and warm at the surface as would be > > expected in the Mediteranean. Your original argument was that the Gulf > > is warm at the surface. The fact is you have no justification for > > dangerous stupidity. > > > > An unbalanced rig is open ocean the trademeark of a no-plan dillatante. > > This is so simple, and you do not get it. Convoluted stupidity to offset > > self-inflicted risk is not the answer. > > > > I will keep offsetting your nonsense and pointing out how wrong you are. > > The difference betwen you and the guys who did the Britannic is the > > diffrence between the real thing and bullshit. Jarrod is the real thing, > > you are a yapping pretender. > > > > Your other argument is that we do not "know wreck diving". Well, Big > > Time, that is obviously not the case, and the fact is that it makes no > > difference where the dive is, our methods are used by the successful > > divers, the bullshit is what the bullshitters use. You are in the latter > > category. > > > > bigvon@be*.ne* wrote: > > > > > > Like I said before George you are a master of misdirection. The discussion > > > was about deep warm water diving with steels without the use of a scooter.. > > > Not cold Britannic water with drysuits and scooters. > > > You still did not answer the question tough guy and I doubt you ever will. > > > Von > > > > > > kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > > > > > > > Von, why don't you stop by GUE and straighten Jarrod out. I tried to > > > > tell him that diving the Britannic in a drysuit was not the Von method, > > > > and that since he was beyond 300, he should have had steels and a > > > > wetsuit, a backwards bc, two bottom timers in case his arm got bit off > > > > by a shark, etc. > > > > > > > > Maybe you can come to a WKPP dive and tell me how to do more than a > > > > "bounce" dive, since I have very little experience with the kind of big > > > > bottom times you are doing, and show me about "exploring" and what I > > > > need to do in the way of "modifications " to accomplish these feats, > > > > short of the lobotomy is appears you forgot to tell us about. > > > > > > > > bigvon@be*.ne* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I did laugh at THAT one. > > > > > I realize I am on the "DIR list", not techdiver. I will continue to > > > > > dive my way and you guys can stay above 300 and dive your way. No one > > > > > has addressed the deep issue. I am not advocating deep diving, just > > > > > commenting on a style that is safe. You WKPP guys keep bouncing the > > > > > wrecks and we will keep exploring them. > > > > > Von > > > > > > > > > > gordonjr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Von, You place your backup wing on upside down, strap the > > > > > inflator to your waist strap, and orally inflate at waist > > > > > level?Hell, if I could do that I'd never leave the house > > > > > (credits to G.Carlin). JR Gordon "Just flip the BC over > > > > > and place it over the bolts as you do your primary B.C. > > > > > I loop a small loop of small bungie over the bottom bolt > > > > > before I assemble the > > > > > harness. This loop is placed over the power inflator > > > > > mechanism to secure it at > > > > > your right waist. There is no hose run to the inflator. Just > > > > > orally inflate if > > > > > needed." > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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