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At 01:51 AM 11/12/1999 -0800, you wrote: >The weighting aspect of DIR is one area that's not crystal clear to >me. If one is diving a drysuit, is it okay to have NO droppable weights? Yes >For example,in my drysuit, using SS backplate, double LP 80's, canister >light, and 3-lb ankleweights, I may not need a weightbelt of any type. I >can add a v-weight if needed or p-weight for single tank. Am I now DIR in >this no-belt, no-pockets, no-drop config? Hmmm, unless you're really small, 104's might be a better choice for weighting and getting a decent amount of gas. get rid of ankle weights. I use no weight w/ 104's unless a really long dive w/ three layers, then I use a 6lb v-weight. I use the same v-weight for 95's, and about 20 lbs with a single 80. (Which I've dove *maybe* once in the last year) >If you're guessing that I'd prefer no-drop to the hated weightbelt, you'd >be right... PS I'm not a fattie; I don't need all that much weight. > >I read George's answer carefully, but what exactly is a normal rig in the >sentence below? Thanks. > >Cam > >>Weighting can be added in backplates , wedges etc if a drysuit is used >>and it still balances, but with a normal rig, the weight needs to be >>removeable and separate from the harness completely, other than the >>cannister light , which also must be removeable and unblocked. > > > > >>From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*> >>Reply-To: kirvine@sa*.ne* >>To: Cam Banks <cam_banks@ho*.co*> >>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Subject: Re: DIR bits & pieces >>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:49:51 -0500 >> >>Compass on one arm, timer on the other. I put the timer on the right >>since that arm is on the scooter and I need to see the depth all of the >>time as part of the cave navigation and data recording process. I hold >>the light on the compass every once in a while so it glows and I can see >>it if I want to. >> >>I leave it the same for ocean to be consistant, even though the compass >>is the more important tool there, and I leave everything the same >>whether I am swimming or scootering for the same reason. Nothing ever >>needs to change and that makes my whole game safer. >> >>No , "integrated" quick release weight schemes are NOT DIR. Anything >>that convolutes or compromises the obvious system is not DIR. Anything >>that forces modification after modification to use standard gear is not >>DIR. I believe the weight thing from Halcyon is for Police and Fire >>rescue units that are kept in the trunk of a car with a 30 cu bottle and >>find their origin in the Brownies belt for the floating compressor. Down >>here the cops are constantly fishing people out of their cars in the >>canals that run along most of the roads which were dug to get material >>to build the roads up so they do not flood with the tropical rains. They >>grab this thing, throw it on over their clothes and jump in . In fact , >>one such dive finished off one of my buddies from ever diving again >>after he went in for a rescue and jumped right onto an alligator. He did >>not get hurt, but he quit diving altogether. >> >>Weighting can be added in backplates , wedges etc if a drysuit is used >>and it still balances, but with a normal rig, the weight needs to be >>removeable and separate from the harness completely, other than the >>cannister light , which also must be removeable and unblocked. >> >>A weightbelt is a beautiful thing and has always been a key element in >>how the game is played. For harness with a dryusuit, you put it on under >>the harness and it takes two steps to remove ( yet will not fall off by >>itself since the harness catches it), but then it is generaly not a dire >>need to ditch it since you have both a bc and a drysuit and the drysuit, >>if it is a shell with insulation, maintains is buoyancy characteristics, >>and if it is a wetsuit, you put it on over the harness so you can lose >>it fast, just like always. For the fat boys ther are suspenders for >>drysuit weights, but then the obvious solution there is to double or >>triple up the steel backplates and make a harness just for diving the >>shell shit with thick insulation, like we do for our decompressoin rigs >>which are nothing more than weighted backplates with with harnesses >>identical to our regular rigs to which we attach stages ( the back tanks >>or rebreather have been removed). They are not "integrated", they are >>for the drysuit only and compensate for the 20 or more pounds of lift >>generated by the drysuit insulation under a shell at any depth just as >>the 104's and cansiter light do . >> >>Any other arrangement is NOT DIR. If you want a "transpac" type thing or >>other "tec" bc, or whatever, go get one, but don't turn a great system >>into a mess. >> >>The beauty of a harness is tht the harness works for all applications >>interchangeably without modification or any change - if you goober it >>up, you might as well buy a "tech" bc or "transpac" type bc. >> >> >>Cam Banks wrote: >> > >> > So, the DIR spot for my compass is on my arm? I can barely get my >> > computer/bottom timer strap over my drysuit above the glove. Is it >> okay to >> > wear the compass on the other arm? Most days in Monterey, I need the >> > compass, unfortunately. >> > >> > Weights: why are the Halcyon ACB pockets not-DIR? (I hate non-integrated >> > weights) >> > >> > Solo Diving: if you're diving solo, non-DIR by definition I know, what >> > changes should be made? Besides getting a buddy. Thanks. >> > >> > Cam >> > >> > ______________________________________________________ >> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > -- >> > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ---------------------------------- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> NW Labor Systems, Inc http://www.nwls.com ---------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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