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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: "Peter Fjelsten" <fjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Marines!!
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:55:47 -0800
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Its the USMC birthday, and this was meant for all Marines, past and =
present, who might see it. The Marines are a fairly international group =
as well! And, some of us dive.....its where I learned to dive 21 years =
ago.

Its not so much glorification as it is confronting your job and mission =
with a positive attitude, under all circumstances. "Marines never =
retreat, they advance to the rear" is a shining example of the mindset. =
Failure is not an option. Its not a word in your vocabulary. Call it =
what you want, it is preparatory to a shitty mission.

No one is calling you names, Pete. Its just a very small and exclusive =
group, as military entities go.
Its really not necessary for others to understand or approve of our =
methods. We get results.

And as our Secretary of State once said, after getting gigged by the UN =
weenies for bombing Libya,=20

"They are all certainly entitled to their opinion."

As long as there are assholes like Saddam and Milosevic around, we =
*need* our Marines. After all,
what would America's foreign policy be without Marines to back it up? =
And who else is going to stand=20
watch at the gates of the worlds US embassies?

Having been and done, I can tell you *for sure* that braggadocio like =
that which got your attention is a necessary
part of the Marine Corps indoctrination.=20

No offense meant. No understanding or approval required.

Scott

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter Fjelsten=20
  To: Scott=20
  Cc: Techdiver=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Marines!!


  Den 20:00 10-11-99  skrev Scott:

    That's OK, Pete, those for whom it was meant understand *perfectly.*

  I don't know for whom this was meant but this is a fairly =
international list.


    and a slightly psychotic outlook on the whole war thing.

  You can say _that_ again. Still, I find this whole war glorification =
thing pretty stupid.

  Call me an ignorant foreign liberal but that's _my_ opinion.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its the USMC birthday, and this was =
meant for all=20
Marines, past and present, who might see it. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>The=20
Marines are a fairly international group as well! And, some of us =
dive.....its=20
where I learned to dive 21 years ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its not so much glorification as it is =
confronting=20
your job and mission with a positive attitude, under all circumstances.=20
"</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marines never retreat, they advance =
to the rear"=20
is a shining example of the mindset. Failure is not an option. Its not a =
word in=20
your vocabulary. Call it what you want, it is preparatory to a shitty=20
mission.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No one is calling you names, Pete. Its =
just a very=20
small and exclusive group, as military entities go.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its really not necessary for others to =
understand=20
or approve of our methods. We get results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And as our Secretary of State once =
said, after=20
getting gigged by the UN weenies for bombing Libya, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"They are all certainly entitled to =
their=20
opinion."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As long as there are assholes like =
Saddam and=20
Milosevic around, we *need* our Marines. After all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what would America's foreign policy be =
without=20
Marines to back it up? And who else is going to stand </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>watch at the </FONT><FONT
face=3DArial =
size=3D2>gates=20
of the worlds US embassies?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Having been and done, I can tell you =
*for sure*=20
that braggadocio like that which got your attention is a =
necessary</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>part of the Marine Corps =
indoctrination.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No offense meant. No understanding or =
approval=20
required.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scott</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:fjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*" =
title=3Dfjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*>Peter=20
  Fjelsten</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:scottk@hc*.co*"=20
  title=3Dscottk@hc*.co*>Scott</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>Techdiver</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 10,
=
1999 11:18=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Happy Birthday=20
  Marines!!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Den 20:00 10-11-99  skrev Scott:<BR><FONT =
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  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">That's OK, Pete, those for whom it was =
meant=20
    understand *perfectly.*</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I don't know for
whom =
this was=20
  meant but this is a fairly international list.<BR><BR><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">and a slightly psychotic outlook on the =
whole=20
    war thing.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You can say _that_ again. Still,
I =
find this=20
  whole war glorification thing pretty stupid.<BR><BR>Call me an =
ignorant=20
  foreign liberal but that's _my_ opinion.</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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