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From: "Walter Jaccard" <wjaccard@mi*.co*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "Karen Nakamura" <karen@gp*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: DIR on RIB's
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:56:15 -0800
Karen,

My buddy has my permission to cut my harness in an emergency.  Don't you
carry shears; they go through a harness like butter.

Walter


----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Nakamura <karen@gp*.co*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: DIR on RIB's


> George -
>
> With all due respect, I wonder if we can't continue this conversation a
bit
> further.
>
> One aspect where open water diving differs from cave diving is the
> possibility of surfacing with an unconscious buddy far away from the boat
or
> land. In the LGS rescue course I took, we learned how to quickly strip the
> unconscious diver of his/her gear and tow them in the do-si-do position
back
> to safety (while possibly applying rescue breathing).
>
> In a cave and/or underwater, yes you can flip the BC over the unconscious
> diver's head, but in open water, the best option is to get them to the
> surface as quickly as possible in order to ascertain ABCs and proceed to
> rescue breathing if necessary.
>
> It's extremely difficult to strip a BC off  an unconscious diver if they
> don't have quick-releases and/or they're wearing a dry suit. The standard
> method (without quick-releases) is to "chicken wing" their hands through
the
> shoulder harness opening, but if they have dry glove cuffs on, this could
be
> problematic.
>
> Could you give me examples where a quick release was more harm than help?
I
> haven't heard of a quick release failing in the field, but you undoubtedly
> have more experience and would appreciate you sharing that with us.
>
> Karen Nakamura
>
> ps. nonabusive replies are always appreciated, as well.
>
>
> > Flip it off over your head forward - same for doubles, same for
> > anything, same for a regular BC, etc. Believe it or not, the basics
> > still work in diving when the word "tech" is used, and in fact, are what
> > keep you alive.
> >
> > A "quick release" on a harness is ridiculous. Not only is it a risk
> > while diving, it impedes correct placement of the rest of the gear. We
> > do not allow them on any dive gear used in any WKPP dives, if that tells
> > you anything.
> >
> > Any unnecesary convolution or accommodation to one percieved problem
> > while not considering the whole picture is an automatic reject.
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