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From: "Hall, Charles R. LT" <CHALL@pw*.na*.mi*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: EGYPTIAN AIR
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:40:10 -0500
Sorry Joel,  being a plank-owner for the USS Grapple, I had to correct your
statement.  The USS Grapple is onsite not the USS Grasp.

-Charles

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Joel Silverstein [SMTP:joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*]
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 02, 1999 7:38 PM
> To:	Scaleworks@ao*.co*; kirvine@sa*.ne*; tgunther@co*.co*
> Cc:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject:	Re: EGYPTIAN AIR
> 
> Kev, 
> 
> The TWA Flight 800 preliminary dives BEFORE the US Navy ship Grasp arrived
> on the scene were done by Police teams. Their bottom times were limited to
> 15 minute no-stop limit of the USN air tables. SInce all of the Police
> scuba teams are "employees" they need to follow OSHA rules. Scuba can only
> be no-stop for commercial work. 
> 
> Once the USN Grasp arrived there were two types of dives done. Scuba
> reconnaissance, again no-stop dives and then the "hard-hat" sur-d dives.
> The sur-D dives were an average of 90 minutes "on-the-bottom" time with
> deco using some in-water with most in Surface decompression chambers with
> 100% oxygen. 
> 
> The 275 fsw depth that Flight 990 is in will require surface supplied
> heliox bounces and if extensive work needs to be done it will have to go
> to
> saturation. 
> 
> They can't and wont do this on scuba. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Joel Silverstein 
> 
> 
> At 04:45 PM 11/2/1999 EST, Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:
> >In a message dated 99-11-02 15:47:14 EST, kirvine@sa*.ne* writes:
> >
> ><< 
> > This is going to be a hard one. Personally , I would not dive unless
> > they had some seriously good location equipment to narrow the search. 
> > 
> > As far as profiles, this could be done repeatedly if the bt was kept at
> > about 18 minutes, and they used scooters, rotating the teams. I still do
> > not see much getting done by divers like this in any reasonable amount
> > of time. If they find a wreck field, then maybe.
> >  >>
> >
> >Based on a presentation given by a Flight 800 NYPD Scuba Team member, 
> >seriously good location equipment is used. The entire crash area is
> mapped 
> >with side scan sonar, and each individual "hit" is investigated by a
> team. 
> >Police members were not allowed to recover any wreckage on the bottom,
> but 
> >just verify it's identity as wreckage or ocean trash. Surface supplied
> Navy 
> >divers were then sent down to do recovery with proper evidence recovery 
> >technique, being it was also an FBI investigation. In this methodical
> manner, 
> >I believe 95 - 98 % of the 747 was recovered. Total bottom times were
> limited 
> >to 25 minutes, one dive a day, 115' max depth, however, the Navy worked
> round 
> >the clock, weather permitting. No volunteer divers were used, or asked
> for.  
> >Needless to say, the depth will most likely preclude
> >any Police units, and rely on the Navy deep divers.
> >
> >Kevin 
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