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Igge, tell this blowhard that you must "be toast" when you cut through
the ice in the Baltic Sea to dive wreck .

I missed a great deal of this stroke's posts until the Brits phoned me
up and told me to look for them. Lawrence Orchard phoned me on my cell
in New York ust to have a laugh over some of this stuff. In the UK, the
conditions are a tad tougher than "Jersey". I would love to see a
buffoon like Suton diving the "gin clear" waters that we can not even
get our deco bottles out of right now in Tallahasse.

BTW, I spoke to JJ the other day about the constant attempts to downplay
what we do, he has a question for all blowhards, "why do you think these
dives are "records"?  Hello? Why is not eveyone doing them?
Why did "cave divers" have to go do the Britannic using WKPP methods to
get that right? 

The thought of doing anything in a "New Jersey" fashion was ths kind of
thing that made up the humor with Archie Bunker on "All in the Family" .
Now I know what they were talking about.

Ingemar Lundgren wrote:
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> I have assembled some of Dave Suttons most entertaining posts.  In 3
> days he posted 51 email messages so this is only a selection of my
> favorites.  Dave, i must say that your ideas of how to conduct
> technical diving safely is incredibly ill thought out and stupid.  You
> are by far the worst example i have seen on this list ever.  You are
> also very good at insulting people and making personal attacks. Some
> of the worst personal attacks i have seen on this list actually. You
> then go on to accuse other list members of being psychopaths and
> insane. You do not look to good here.
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> BEST OF DAVE SUTTON POSTS;
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> The WKPP does -very-
> specialized diving. So do we. Ours is not greater , nor is it lesser.
> -Some-
> of the techniques are interchangable, but -most- are not. I'm not
> going
> to sit and let George and his syncophants run roughshod over
> the experience that we have gained in our decades of experience
> and experimentation. Just come on up and try your gin-clear water
> techniques while diving in faceplate vis, 34 degree temps, 10 foot
> seas while deco, and wearing 3 finger dry mitts.
> 
> If you tried blue-water diving up here
> using cave techniques, you'd be dead. You -might- survive the fairly
> benign conditions of the summer, but come February when the air
> temperature
> on the boat is 15, the water is 32, and your gear freezes to a sheet
> of ice
> while you climb the ladder and you'd be toast.
> 
> What we know as 'technical diving' is
> mainly a synthesis of NE Wreck Diving techniques
> 
> I'm snag-free. But I do not need to be a sleek swimmer.
> Ever try to swim sleekly carrying a crowbar and sledgehammer?? Thus
> my 1/4 inch manila reel and poney bottle were never an issue from a
> drag
> standpoint.  You can brace your feet against a passenger
> liner and push it off from the dock because although the mass is
> large,
> the friction is low. Once moving it's not an issue. I've tried it and
> it
> works.
> 
> I can swim just fine. It's a matter of degree. am quite comfortable
> swimming from, say the stern of the San Diego to the box, diving,
> hannging, and then surface swimming back to the boat.
> 
> If I get behind the granny line, I'm toast. But on the good side, I'd
> say
> that I have about a 99% reliability factor for finding the anchor line
> on those
> dives where I plan to use it.
> 
> Carrying WKPP sidemounts to the Doria for an inexperienced diver is
> just asking for trouble. Talk about
> drag and mass
> 
> I personally do not use a BC at all
> 
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> Question: Why do NJ Wreck divers all use 1/4 manila reels when the
> rest of
> the tech diving world uses lighter synthetic line and smaller diameter
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> reels?
> 
> My answer: Because we do our deco wearing 1/4 inch 3 finger mitts
> and while it is true that a light line is strong enough to hold the
> diver,
> it is nearly impossible to hold onto the light line for a long deco
> with
> mitts,nor is it possible to tie knots in lighter line with the heavy
> mitts on. Our
> techniquefor deco if we cannot locate the anchor line is to send up
> our manila on a
> 50pound lift-bag, and then hang from the annchored bag.
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