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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:18:53 -0400
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Another Possibility at Madison
After talking to Will Smithers, another factor came up which needs to
be brought out here, whether it was a "cause" or not.

   If appears that one of these divers rigged his long hose on the left
post, which only the absolute worst idiot would teach any cave diver to
do. 

   In a cave ( or any overhead), the left side of the manifold rolls off
( and frequently jamms or breaks off) by rubbing on the ceiling. If
divers are dealing with a restricted area, and then have a gas
situation, as in this case, and the post rolls off, when one goes to
share with the other, the donee gets nothing, and the party is over.

   Keep in mind that one of these divers had 500 psi left. When I called
Dive Rite to ask this question, some genius there tried to tell me there
is "no right or wrong post". Yeah, right.

   I am not blaming this on that, as there are too many "last straws" in
this one to make any difference, but let's say the stages were just down
stream of them, and that 500 psi could have gotten them there if they
had otherwise become sqaured away, which they were not - it would not
have had the chance to do so with the hose on the wrong post at that
point. 

   The little details that the "instructors" out there don't seem to
get, and they all hate me for pointing it out.

    While this guy should have been breathing the long hose and known
this, he may not have been, and or it could have rolled the last bit off
at the last minute as they were on the roof, but rigging that way is too
stupid to contemplate anyway, and is symptomatic of a complete cluster
job, much like wearing the telltale bondgage wings. Most dives are
stage, so you do not know the situation with the long hose ( this is why
you always first share what you are breathing), and even if you were
breathing it, only the worst botom feeding asshole would have the long
hose on the psot that rolls off and USUALLY BREAKS off at the same time
when moving, or jams off , or breaks the knob, or shatters the knob, or
breaks the stem and becomes inoperative.

 Only the worst idiot instructor would teach this.

 In addition , the inflator should be on the other side so it can be
used as a backup reg in the event that the left post does become
incapacitated.

 Again, this may not be the case or case here, but it is a good
opportunity to bring up this topic of hose placement. Smithers picked up
on this having seen the guy dive before, a very good observation.


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