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From: "Chuck Hinchey" <chinchey@rj*.co*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Dave, stand up!.
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:01:52 -0500
Dave,

Hang in there!

Your posts have been informative, interesting, and a welcome change from the
usual bashing that goes on here.  It's quite refreshing to see an exchange
of ideas instead of perpetual mud slinging.  Whether your methods and ideas
are accepted by the FL crowd is irrelevant.  Even if you are completely
wrong on every aspect (not suggesting that at all), the dialog and
discussion helps stimulate critical thought, which is imperative to safely
conduct complex dives.

btw - to the bashers, don't bother researching the archives.  I have NEVER
(yet) posted any technical information to the list.  I have asked a couple
of questions only.  I'm still (and always will be) learning about technical
diving.  I take what I find here, discuss it with my dive friends, test what
seems reasonable and go from there.

Chuck Hinchey
chinchey@rj*.co*

-----Original Message-----
From: bdi [mailto:bdi@bd*.co*.au*]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:08 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Dave, you're an idiot. Sit down.


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Sutton <pilots@na*.ne*>
To: William Smithers <will@tr*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Portrait of a loonie, WAS: Madison Blue
 >
 >
 > Here we have another clue to his manifest insanity. It's somehow
 > OK for him to be an experienced NE Wreck diver and produce
 > all sorts of drivel regarding the techniques that are used by guys
 > doing it every day, yet when the locales are exchanged, suddenly
 > it's impossible for a northern resident to be acceptably skilled in
 > a Florida based sport. So, Georgie, which is it? You don't wreck dive
 > all the time, so are you unsafe at it? Or are you -special-?  Feeling
 > that you are somehow 'perfect', with an unrealistic view of your
 > own limitations is a baseline sign of an internal disorder.

etc, etc, et fucking cetera.

Dave, you're becoming obsessive about the list again.
I thought we'd got you over that and had moved on to
cleaning up your potentially dangerous gear rigging
style, your ill-thought-out methods of diving, and
your hopeless defense of both which alternates between
'that's how everyone on the boat does it' and 'I've
been doing it longer than you'.

Ah well. Back to slow learner's seat, Dave.

About the list. The listmaster - JR Holroyd - knows
something you don't. He has a deliberate hands-off
policy towards debate on the list. Consequently
the list runs itself. It is a large, succesful and
vigorous community that was here before you, Dave, and
will be here long after you've gone. It doesn't need
a self-imposed style-monitor to run it, nor a phoney
atmosphere of offended modesty.

Also, try to lose that chip on your shoulder about
George. I know it's a bitch that he's a far more
accomplished and knowledgeable diver, in cave and ocean,
than you, but your public displays of jealousy are
embarrassing to witness coming from a grown man.

Many of us around the world are much better, safer
divers because of George, some of us because of the
aggressiveness with which he promotes the safe diving
message.

rgrds    billyw




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