The point here, Dave, is to minimize as much as possible any heavy
exertion immediately following a long exposure.  Having a background in
hyperbaric physiology, did you ever do doppler studies of this?  Do a
few deep knee bends immediately after a dive and listen to the doppler
go nuts.  Even clipping off your stage bottles and climbing the ladder
with the rest reduces the weight somewhat, and allows you to ascend the
ladder with reg in mouth.  Resting in the water for a few minutes
immediately after surfacing could help too.  You mentioned that the
heavy sea is a problem, but in this case would it not be wise to limit
your exposure anyway?

-Sean



On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:30:47 -0400, Dave Sutton wrote:

>
>
>>On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Dave Sutton wrote:
>
>
>>> On a NE salt water dive boat, the relality is if you dawdle at the ladder
>>> you are going to get smacked up. We have no -support team-.
>>> We cannot simply tread water at the side of a ladder heaving
>>> 10+ feet and unclip our stuff and hand it up. Sorry!
>
>
>>That's what an equipment line is for.
>
>
>
>OK.... I see. I was taught to be a diver before I stood up from
>the box (IE: mask on, reg in mouth, etc..) and to be a diver
>until I was sitting back on the box (IE no mask on forehead,
>reg still in mouth, etc.). I've  seen way too many guys topple
>from the ladder and it's nice to still be a diver when you
>re-enter the water when not planning to do so. I'm not
>taking my gear off next to the bottom a ladder that's
>describing a 15 foot arc through the water as the boat
>rolls, fergedaboutit. You have at it. Not me. I'm probably
>not the only guy waiting for the ladder, and I'm not more than
>30 seconds from ladder approach to sitting on the box with
>the ladder clear for the next guy. In my experience, I've seen
>far more accidents at the ladder than on the bottom. -MANY-
>more. Ranging from broken ankles to lost teeth. I've seen
>guys hung up on their light cords. I've seen guys hung up
>on long-hoses that were not in place (mine is in my mouth,
>thanks..). Just my 2 cents. Feel free to do differently. Also
>feel free to be harassed by your shipmates when you clog
>the ladder and they are all waiting for you to unsnap your
>stuff. As they sit on the granny line, all tired and sore,
>they'll appreciate your techniques, I'm sure.
>
>There's more than one way to skin a cat. You use
>a knife, and I'll use a chainsaw. Both result in a dead cat.. ;-)
>Yer way may result in a prettier dead cat, but they are
>still both dead cats.
>
>
>>> If I quit now, I'd still have more time in deco than you surelyhave
>>> diving total. I do not mean this as a put-down at all. Far from
>>> it.
>>
>>You seem to rely on this "non-put-down" quite a lot. What is the point of
>>ragging on about your experience if it isn't meant to disarm someone less
>>experienced than you?
>
>
>It's meant to establish that I'm not some newbie that just popped up
>out of a PADI course. My opinions (which are quite subject to change
>as information is presented) is based on years of widely diversified
>diving under the most extreme conditions including NJ wreck diving,
>open ocean saturation diving, Antarctic research diving, Experimental
>Diving Unit research diving, hyperbaric chamber operations, etc.
>All of those experiences add up to A: an opinionated diver, and
>B: an experience one that takes all in what may perhaps be a larger
>contextual background than some others. Nope, I've not been
>everywhere, nor done everything. Never claimed to. Not a
>demigod or thane. Just an experienced diver with an excellent
>safety record, diving off of the oldest running NJ dive boat and
>have been doing so since the 70's. And we have never had a
>diver killed, -ever-. So all this nonsense about 'techniques that
>kill' are just plain absurd.
>
>I defer to those with more knowlage on the subjects in which they
>are expert. I'll not comment on cave diving, for example. But I defer
>to very few when it comes to bluewater wreck diving. You may have
>a way that's as good a mine. Maybe better, who knows. But nothing
>that is a quantum leap over what we have been doing for years.
>Surely, the guys with the most to share are the Channel divers
>from the UK. We are going round and round about nonsense
>and they are doing some -really- neat stuff. Not invented by
>WKPP either..... ;-)
>
>I have been enjoying our discourse greatly. Most interesting.
>(and yeah, feel free to criticize my spelling... it's somewhat of a joke, I
>know.)
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dave Sutton

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