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First, to all: In discourse about politics I wrote a hypothetical question to spur the group onward to discussions of diving technique, and posted a 'troll-ish' query that I knew would result in discussion. I have no emotional stake in the argument or the technique discussed. But discussion has ensued as a result with the end gain that we're talking about -diving- and not about -jerkish buffoons. At least -that's- a step in the right direction. Now, to end this silly thread: >Dave, I am curious. When you see one of your buddies with an outmoded Jersey reel, what do you do? Not a thing. I've been watching guys use them for 25+ years and in thousands of dives nobody has ever had a problem with them that I have seen, and I've seen many hundreds of safe decos done on them. What is the difference between theory and practice? Well, in theory they are the same. But in practice they are not. ITheory is only valid insofar as it reflects reality. the -reality- is that it makes zippo safety difference and if they want to carry a friggin mile of manila, let 'em. Personally I don't unless I am planning a long off-anchor deco and that is a concious pre-dive decision to apply this technique. The whole reel issue is one that I pulled out of a hat to make people get to the business of the email list. It's not an issue that I have any emotional attachment to. It was just an easy subject. >As an IP what do you do when one of your student does >something really stupid which might kill him the next time he tries it? If >it is a dual-control aircraft, and your student almost kills you, what is >your reaction? We rebrief the mission and refly it. I have the option to bail as the instructor and hand him off to another one for review. It rarely happens as the people I work with are already good when I get them. You don't get into USN Test Pilots School if you are a shitbird. I'm also an instructor pilot for Dassault on the Falcon 50EX. Here I need to be a bit more diplomatic since the guy is flying a 25 million $ product that we have sold. It's not rocket science. I also have about 5000 hours of instruction in light airplanes (Cessna 172's mainly) and I just stay on my toes. Have given that up in recent years as my time is pretty rare. Nobody has ever been killed by a manila reel. It's not that stupid. It worked flawlessly for the 20-ish years that it took for the industry to build cave reels. Cave reels are generally better. Not a quantum leap better, just a bit better. Obviously better in caves (duh..). generally better for wreck diving. -not- all that much better for decompressing on. To make a mountain out of a molehill is the point that I am trying to make with the group: Much of what you take as gospel just doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the real world. The accident rate is worse now than it was 20 years ago. Why? DaveSutton .. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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