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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:48:46 +1000
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: bdi <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Subject: Re: A question about who is the mouth
At 04:48  21/10/99 , Dave Sutton wrote:
> >>You don't know fuck-all about me or what I do, so how can you
> >>possibly write that with a sraight face?
>
> >I know about you from what you wrote about yourself. And after
> >reading that it was hard to keep a straight face.
>
>
>So I guess 25 years of -uninterupted- diving in what is now
>called tech-diving, and working on a NE Dive boat where
>we have (according to our manifests) put -25,000- divers
>on wrecks with -zero- accidents is worth nothing, eh? Hmmm.....

Well since you ask...
You've done rather a lot of big mouthing about your diving 
history but so far you haven't offered a single useful piece 
of information about diving. You also slagged someone who 
regularly posts vitally interesting and useful information. 
So taken as a whole, your presence here is worth less than 
nothing.

>Now -do- go piss off.  Sheesh. What a group of pathetic losers.
>Ya'll last about a half-day on the boat here before we threw you off
>for a bad attitude.

Dave, allow me to point out the problem here. You roared onto
the list with a vitriolic attack on someone. Interestingly, you 
accused them of doing the very thing you yourself are doing.

That makes you a hypocrite.

Then you declared that the list had no meaningful content, 
ignoring for the purpose of your (rather thin) argument a thread 
that was running with good information about drugs for motion 
sickness and diving - the useful information you said was lacking 
on the list.

That makes you a liar.

Then you bag me for commenting about you while knowing nothing 
about you, but at the same time, you feel free to declare that the 
list members would be thrown off the boat you monkee on because of 
bad attitude. But you don't know anything about most of the people 
on the list.

Hypocrite again.

>  See, it's not -what- a man can do that is important,
>it's -how- you do it. When I die, I don't want people to say "Well, he
>could dive pretty well... for an asshole". I'd rather that they say "He was
>a prince among men, always there to share, and always smiling.
>He was a good shipmate, and a good diver".

You also seem to have an unhealthy preoccupation with how people 
perceive you.

>Now: If you are not  well-balanced emotionally, you cannot be counted
>on to be trustworthy in a pinch. People that rant and rave are not those
>whom I would trust when the chips are down.

Dave, so far I count six posts from you which are largely 'rant and 
rave'.

>  You might be interested
>in the fact that I make my living -teaching- test pilots to fly.

This is interesting, given that one would expect a test pilot to be 
able to fly already.

So, bullshit again, Dave. 

>  We screen
>our pilots for the  exact traits that are exhibited here in bulk, and we
>-eliminate- those people from the program....... See, in my business
>(which has many parallels to technical diving), we ask our buddies to
>be willing to offer their lives to assist their brothers in a time of need.
>I -know- what real men who are dedicated to 'taming technologies that can
>bite'
>are like since I work with them every day. Any of them acting like, or
>writing like,
>what I see here would be shunned and would never walk among the rest.

Dave, this is like the Lumberjack Song. Next you'll be telling 
us about how you like to dress in women's clothing and hang 
around in bars.

rgrds billyw




>Good pilots make good divers. Bad people make neither.
>
>
>Dave Sutton

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