Austin,

I think you are missing the point, Deep H20.  This
list is used as a forum so that we can learn from the
mistakes of others.  I would like to know the name of
someone who is dangerous in the water so I don't have
to dive with them and steer students away from anyone
that is stupid enough to teahc dive planning this way.
And I have to ask, where are you going diving today?

TB




--- DeepH20Scuba <deeph20scuba@ex*.co*> wrote:
> Don't tell the list his name because there is no
> need for it.  Who the hell
> cares who this guy is. What are you going to do with
> his name?  Ban him from
> this wonderful informational list?  Whoooooo!  Maybe
> you could pull his PADI
> master diver rating.  That would show him.
> 
> This list is ridiculous.  If some of these "divers"
> on the list would try
> diving instead of punching their keyboard all day
> maybe we would have a
> better safety record. But of course, spout off all
> your stupid flames and
> opinions.  Thank God, I wont hear any of them
> becuase I will be at 310 fsw
> today.
> 
> Austin
> 
> P.S. Just for your info, I actually plan on getting
> into the water.  Not
> just simulating my dive on Microsoft Scuba like the
> majority of "tech
> divers" on this list. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:34:12 -0400,
> kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> 
> > Mke, it is bad enough to use 80/20 in the first
> place, so it is no
> > suprise that anyone this stupid would also think
> that they are somehow
> > absolved of lung damage or CNS exposure due to the
> % of ox rather than
> > the partial pressure. It is also no suprise that
> these strokes then
> > proceeded to stage a cluster, putting all of you
> at risk as you so
> > correctly point out.
> > 
> > This is what is known as a "boat monkey" dumb ass
> dive instructor , a
> > common element in "tech" diving these days.
> > 
> > How about telling us who this guy is?
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Rodriguez wrote:
> > > 
> > > At 06:54 AM 10/13/99 PDT, DeepH20Scuba wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hmm... you seem to have misread my post.  Try
> again.
> > > 
> > > This was my longest dive on this particular
> wreck.  I have
> > > rather more experience than that.  You know
> nothing about me.
> > > 
> > > All that aside, your comments indicate a
> shocking lack of
> > > knowledge.  Any responsible diver with even an
> elementary
> > > understanding of CNS-O2 physiology would also
> have be outraged
> > > by a tech instructor's comment that air-breaks
> are not necessary
> > > when using an 80% O2 concentration for
> decompression, and that
> > > air-breaks are only necessary when using 100%
> O2.  If he's telling
> > > his students this, and I have no reason to
> believe he isn't,
> > > then he's being grossly negligent, putting
> himself and his
> > > certifying organization at risk of a lawsuit,
> and he's putting
> > > our entire sport at risk of being regulated by
> the government.
> > > 
> > > For the record, I don't tell anyone how to dive,
> but I also
> > > don't appreciate it when other divers
> demonstrate the kind
> > > of inconsiderate behavior the three OOA divers
> on this dive
> > > demonstrated.  I use the term 'inconsiderate'
> because, by causing
> > > an OOA situation, they put *me* at risk as well
> as themselves since
> > > I had to rescue this instructor.  Had I not
> brought with me
> > > enough gas to complete my own decompression and
> had enough
> > > left-over for him to complete his as well, he
> might well have
> > > spent that night in a hospital or worse.  In
> addition to my
> > > safety, he also put the safety of my gear, which
> saved him
> > > from a possible DCS hit, at risk since I had to
> leave it with
> > > him so he could finish his dive.  As my post
> indicated, this
> > > is not the first time I've had to do this, and
> I'm tired of
> > > it.  On top of that, add the fact that the
> government is
> > > already looking into regulating this sport (the
> governmental
> > > backlash due to the recent rash of deaths on the
> Doria, for
> > > example.)  The actions of irresponsible people
> like these
> > > divers cause all of this.
> > > 
> > > Again, since you seem to have trouble reading,
> I'll reiterate.
> > > I don't tell anyone how to dive, but if a
> careless and inconsiderate
> > > diver puts my life, my buddy's life, or my gear
> in danger (which
> > > these guys did by virtue of their need for a
> rescue), I'll have
> > > something to say.  As for your comment:
> > > 
> > >      "Maybe you don't know all the facts and it
> > >       probably isn't any of your business that
> you do."
> > > 
> > > Get with it.  Read my post again.  I was there;
> in the water
> > > with them on the bottom, during deco, and during
> the on-boat
> > > discussion after the dive.  How could I not know
> all the facts
> > > when I rescued these guys?  Furthermore, my
> presence on this dive
> > > most definitely makes it my business to know the
> facts since they
> > > *directly* affect my safety.  How could you be
> so short-sighted
> > > as to not see this and not be as outraged as I
> am?
> > > 
> > > -Mike Rodriguez
> > > <mikey@ma*.co*>
> > > 
> > > >Judging by your experience level, (my longest
> dive, 150fsw for 30 min,
> a
> > > >cakewalk dive in my neighborhood) you have no
> business telling an
> instructor
> > > >what to do or how to dive.  This guy obviously
> has more experience than
> you
> > > >and you have the conceit to demand an
> explanation from him about his
> > > >dive???!@!# Maybe you don't know all the facts
> and it probably isn't
> any of
> > > >your business that you do.
> > > >
> > > >I am glad that he ruined your day and your
> dive.  Maybe it will make
> guys
> > > >like you think twice about going on the boat
> trips and keep you away
> from
> > > >guys like me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Dive Report: Clinton (10/2/99)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > A group of five divers dove the Clinton
> Saturday
> > > >> > (10/2/99) off the
> > > >> > Tonto.  Bob Sheridan of Anchor SCUBA was
> captain.
> > > >> > The conditions
> > > >> > were good.  There was a light breeze, and
> the ocean
> > > >> > was running about
> > > >> > three feet.  It was sunny and warm.  There
> was a
> > > >> > moderate surface
> > > >> > current at maybe 3/4 knot with no
> discernable bottom
> > > >> > current at all.
> > > >> > Visibility at the bottom was about 80 feet
> and about
> > > >> > 40 feet near
> > > >> > the surface.  Air temperature was around 88
> and
> 
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