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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: "Travis Pawliuk" <oroborus@th*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Who rates?
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:24:29 -0400
Try Gagnon for the Aqualung, Cousteu as an unscrupulous PT Barnum type who
helped bring the ocean to the public, Ian Flemming for the same thing with
James Bond and Thunderball ( creation of an adventure mystique in diving) ,
Lloyd Bridges took this further still; Who ever was responsible for the
original NAUI course structure; the Original Skindiver Magazine back in the
60s; All these people helped create an infra-structure and the allure of  a
new sport. PADI, TDI and  IANTD would help to degrade the quality of dive
training, in their mad rush  to increase public participation in the sport
 and their own incomes ), as each one gained its foothold.
George Irvine was the first to reverse this trend, and take diving back to
the more intelligent direction NAUI originally started with, and then he
took it ( DIR )  FAR beyond anything NAUI could ever imagine.
Regards,
Dan Volker


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Travis Pawliuk [mailto:oroborus@th*.co*]
Sent:	Wednesday, October 13, 1999 3:33 AM
To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	Who rates?

I got this reply from George and would have answered people like Cousteau,
Buhlmann, and even that guy 4000 years ago who thought up tying a bunch of
rocks to a slave and giving him a big sack of air before throwing him in the
Nile to clean the bottom of barges contributed more to diving.  But George
obviously doesn't like my opinions so I'd thought I'd throw it open for
discussion.
So who do you consider to be the greatest contributors to diving?  And note
he did ask for diving, not just tech or cave.  The three I listed are the
quick off the top of my head, so I'd like to find out who the rest of you
think rates.


>From: kirvine@sa*.ne*
>Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 18:08:01 -0400
>Reply-To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
>To: Travis Pawliuk <oroborus@th*.co*>
>Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes
>
>Jerkoff - do you want to compare my track record and contribution to
>diving to anyone else's? Go ahead and give it a try. You have already
>confirmed yourself on the wrong side of too many arguments to ever be
>taken seriously. Stick to petty resentment - one of you shows up about
>once a month.
>
>
>
>Travis Pawliuk wrote:
>>
>> This from a guy who in a previous post said that stopping the heart is no



Travis Pawliuk
-"I'd love to be the one to disappoint you when I don't fall down"
from "Re-Arranged" by Limp Bizkit


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