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Easy answer - he is full of bs. See his signed confession of zoo animal stupidity in his answer to Bill Mee. IB2. wrote: > > Tom, > > As I understand it the Normoxic trimix course has not been introduced in the > UK yet do you have any information on when it will become available or the > reasons for the delay? > > As I understand it, until the normoxic course is available here divers are > compelled to dive deep on air to gain the required entry credits for the > full trimix course, which will tell them why the very thing they have been > compelled to do is stupid. > > Have I missed the plot or is there some reason why the normoxic trimix > course has yet to reach our shores? > > Ian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> > To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: 06 October 1999 15:28 > Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes > > > George > > the text includes the Technical Encyclopedia, the technical student > workbook > > a complete set of slides it is extremely well supported and in is our > > preferred dive program for people getting into deeper diving. The majority > > of instructors are able to get students who originally wanted to do > > technical diver to take this course as instead. > > > > I have no doubt that some people state they are comfortable on air toi > > greater depths however even if the technical diver program is taught they > > are forbidden to dive deeper than 170 feet. The technical diver course > does > > require two dives deeper than 130 and no dives below 170. > > > > The Normoxic course is basically the same course except it does dives on > > trimix instead of air. The student is NOTALLOWED to dive air deeper than > 130 > > in this program. As has been stated several times on this list over the > past > > three years. The student does not have any requirement to have dived air > > deeper than 130 prior to getting into the course in fact they do not even > > have to have been to 130 just deeper than 90 feet prior to the course. The > > Normoxic trimix is a heavy deep diving theory course it does not get into > > HPNS and some other factors as these things are not of a concern to > Normoxic > > trimix. It is intense on skills and procedures. the course requires 3 > dives > > deeper than 130 and a max depth not to exceed 200. Depths are worked up to > > in increments no greater than 30 feet from one dive to the next. > > > > > > The HPNS and other issues are addressed in depth in the trimix course > where > > dives may evolve into dives that that knowledge is mandated. The full > trimix > > course has six dives also 2 of which can be on air or mix as they are just > > skill dives and need not be deep. Four dives are on mix and must be deeper > > than 160 and no deeper than 260 > > > > Again if people wish details go to the web page and read through the > > standards > > > > Respectfully yours, > > Tom Mount > > CEO IANTD World HQ > > http://www.iantd.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > > To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> > > Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:45 AM > > Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes > > > > > > > T, that is not the question - the question is what materials are > > > available for these courses. I personally have zero interest in this, > > > but had it mentioned to me by an IANTD instructor on a dive boat the > > > other day, the implications being that these courses are an accomodation > > > to outside pressure and are neither well supported by IANTD, nor really > > > intended to replace "deep air". I of course found this hard to believe > > > so sent you that question to see if it were really possible. > > > > > > Tom, there are people out there, believe it or not, who are so stupid as > > > to think ther is such a thing as an "ability" to dive deep on air, and > > > there are intstructors out there who are so stupid, and so irresponsible > > > that they say things like, "my personal comfort level on air is 200 > > > feet" in front of students, who then take this to mean that unless they > > > "can" be "comfortable" on air at "200 feet", they must not be cutting > > > the mustard. > > > > > > I know this is unbelievable to a pro like yourself, but I have heard > > > this direcdtly from the flapping lips of various instructors, > > > affilliation unknown. > > > > > > Anything that pays lip service only to the importance of proper gas > > > choices and true technical diving (which menas doing the dives proeprly > > > and optimally), is a disservice to all of us, and in my opinion would > > > require the attention of a dive training "leader" such as yourself for > > > clarification. > > > > > > > > > Tom Mount wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone interested should go to the web pages and check the standards > for > > the > > > > texts and also the skills. that should answer anyone's questions > > > > > > > > Respectfully yours, > > > > Tom Mount > > > > CEO IANTD World HQ > > > > http://www.iantd.com > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > > > > To: <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> > > > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:45 PM > > > > Subject: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes > > > > > > > > > Tom, I hear that there are little or no materials for your > "normoxic", > > > > > "intermendiate" or whatever "trimix" course. This would appear to > make > > > > > this course a case of "lip service" to those of us who have long > been > > > > > critics of your "deep air" courses and policy. > > > > > > > > > > While I like the fact that you to at least appear to comply with > > > > > intelligent thinking, I find it appalling that the reality is you > > still > > > > > may not. > > > > > > > > > > Is this true? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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