Tom,

As I understand it the Normoxic trimix course has not been introduced in the
UK yet do you have any information on when it will become available or the
reasons for the delay?

As I understand it, until the normoxic course is available here divers are
compelled to dive deep on air to gain the required entry credits for the
full trimix course,  which will tell them why the very thing they have been
compelled to do is stupid.

Have I missed the plot or is there some reason why the normoxic trimix
course has yet to reach our shores?

Ian.



----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: 06 October 1999 15:28
Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes


> George
> the text includes the Technical Encyclopedia, the technical student
workbook
> a complete set of slides it is extremely well supported and in is our
> preferred dive program for people getting into deeper diving. The majority
> of instructors are able to get students who originally wanted to do
> technical diver to take this course as instead.
>
> I have no doubt that some people state they are comfortable on air toi
> greater depths however even if the technical diver program is taught they
> are forbidden to dive deeper than 170 feet. The technical diver course
does
> require two dives deeper than 130 and no dives below 170.
>
> The Normoxic course is basically the same course except it does dives on
> trimix instead of air. The student is NOTALLOWED to dive air deeper than
130
> in this program. As has been stated several times on this list over the
past
> three years. The student does not have any requirement to have dived air
> deeper than 130 prior to getting into the course in fact they do not even
> have to have been to 130 just deeper than 90 feet prior to the course. The
> Normoxic trimix is a heavy deep diving theory course it does not get into
> HPNS and some other factors as these things are not of a concern to
Normoxic
> trimix. It is intense on skills and procedures. the course requires 3
dives
> deeper than 130 and a max depth not to exceed 200. Depths are worked up to
> in increments no greater than 30 feet from one dive to the next.
>
>
> The HPNS and other issues are addressed in depth in the trimix course
where
> dives may evolve into dives that that knowledge is mandated. The full
trimix
> course has six dives also 2 of which can be on air or mix as they are just
> skill dives and need not be deep. Four dives are on mix and must be deeper
> than 160 and no deeper than 260
>
> Again if people wish details go to the web page and read through the
> standards
>
> Respectfully yours,
> Tom Mount
> CEO IANTD World HQ
> http://www.iantd.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes
>
>
> > T, that is not the question - the question is what materials are
> > available for these courses. I personally have zero interest in this,
> > but had it mentioned to me by an IANTD instructor on a dive boat the
> > other day, the implications being that these courses are an accomodation
> > to outside pressure and are neither well supported by IANTD, nor really
> > intended to replace "deep air". I of course found this hard to believe
> > so sent you that question to see if it were really possible.
> >
> > Tom, there are people out there, believe it or not, who are so stupid as
> > to think ther is such a thing as an "ability" to dive deep on air, and
> > there are intstructors out there who are so stupid, and so irresponsible
> > that they say things like, "my personal comfort level on air is 200
> > feet" in front of students, who then take this to mean that unless they
> > "can" be "comfortable" on air at "200 feet", they must not be cutting
> > the mustard.
> >
> > I know this is unbelievable to a pro like yourself, but I have heard
> > this direcdtly from the flapping lips of various instructors,
> > affilliation unknown.
> >
> > Anything that pays lip service only to the importance of proper gas
> > choices and true technical diving (which menas doing the dives proeprly
> > and optimally), is a disservice to all of us, and in my opinion would
> > require the attention of a dive training "leader" such as yourself for
> > clarification.
> >
> >
> > Tom Mount wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone interested should go to the web pages and check the standards
for
> the
> > > texts and also the skills. that should answer anyone's questions
> > >
> > > Respectfully yours,
> > > Tom Mount
> > > CEO IANTD World HQ
> > > http://www.iantd.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> > > To: <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:45 PM
> > > Subject: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes
> > >
> > > > Tom, I hear that there are little or no materials for your
"normoxic",
> > > > "intermendiate" or whatever "trimix" course. This would appear to
make
> > > > this course a case of "lip service" to those of us who have long
been
> > > > critics of your "deep air" courses and policy.
> > > >
> > > >   While I like the fact that you to at least appear to comply with
> > > > intelligent thinking, I find it appalling that the reality is you
> still
> > > > may not.
> > > >
> > > >   Is this true?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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