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John, I don't think you got the point of my first message. The fact is, DIR works everywhere. I met a Scottish DIR diver in my intro class in Florida, and he and I discussed conditions at length. It seems the UK has very similar conditions (slight better, but similar) to Puget sound. And it seems that DIR works great everywhere. Shoot, even some of the strokes I know are doing both bottles on the left side because it's obviously a hell of a lot more streamlined. When I go to Florida, I just leave the gloves at home. That's it. I'm not a cave diver by default. Yes, I have been trained to dive some of the caves in Florida, but 99% of my dives are in the cold, murky waters around here. -Please try to tell us exactly what you find wrong with the DIR system for the conditions you are diving in, and why. Incidentally, both the Scottish guy and I show up in florida, never having been in a cave before, never having met ANYONE with the WKPP before (or even talked to them, for that matter) with the exact same gear, and we both went home, and still dive the exact same gear, just better divers. It works. period. At 11:58 AM 9/21/1999 +0100, John Thornton <John@sc*.co*> wrote: >Hi George >I know most of these guys and deep air is not in the make up of the guys >I know, some of them are ex offenders but as far as I know no more. >certainly when they have dived with me there has been no deep air stuff, >all use ENDs of about 35-40m. If they did different on this trip then I >agree with you George. >Being that I now use a CCR and I seem to be aware of your opinions on >them I cant see the problem with asking why the oxygen is a problem, i >assume that its because of the back mount, what is wrong with that? >Of all the configs I have seen the bottom line is familiarity with your >set up. Your DIR system has caused a lot of probs to people using it in >their early days up here, the left stage cylinder mounting is great for >you guys but I have seen some real laughs and confusion with it. >Possibly because they dont follow a regime that rivals an Olympic >athlete but there again very few do. Simplistic is the key, I am >delighted that your set up works as well for you guys as it does, I am >also glad that the config these guys use works for them. >Skin bends I know occur in all diving, including yours, if you have the >secret then pass it on, let them decide whether to follow it up or not. >If any idiot can do it then so be it, I suppose that some are bigger >idiots than others. > >keep up the good work George > >John Thornton > >In message <37E6C05F.3659@sa*.ne*>, kirvine@sa*.ne* writes > >John Thornton wrote: > >> > >> Hi George > >> > >> Seem to manage to do the dives though. > >> > >> Regards > >> John > >> > > > > John, I guess you did not read the web site. The fact is that all they > >did was stage a continuous cluster while setting a piss poor example and > >making it clear why there ar so many accidents in this sport. > > > > How about you explain to us why what they are doing makes any sense, > >since they clearly can not. Let's start with bragging about deep air > >diving on the web site, and then lets move on to ponied oxygen behind > >the back????? > > > > Do the dives? Don't make me laugh. > > > > > > > > The fact is any idiot can do what you are calling "dives", most of the > >time, and all of you prove that every day. You a > > > > > > > >john thornton web page http://www.scapaflow.com > >iantd trimix instructor, skipper/owner "Karin" >inspiration instructor > >polrudden house tel.01856 874761 >peerie sea loan fax 01856 870950 >kirkwall >orkney kw15 1uh > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ---------------------------------- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> NW Labor Systems, Inc http://www.nwls.com Who is John Galt? ---------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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