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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:33:45 +0100
To: John Grogan <john@ro*.co*.uk*>
Cc: HESSIANS@ao*.co*, John@sc*.co*, kevin@nw*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: John Thornton <Johnpt@sc*.co*>
Subject: Re: "Desecrating" War Graves???
hello again

have just been through a heap of fun over this one and it raises all
sorts of issues and is in fact never ending, are bones in a cave to be
removes or respected, what gives an archaeologist the right to remove
anything and why do the MOD allow display of artefacts from a war grave
in a museum. The bottom line is that it depends were on  the agenda that
you lie and who needs you.

The agency discussion John G was an attempt to get you folks to realise
that the only way to educate is not to limit the listeners. Your
strokism and rules have some substance but the application is a reminder
of a guy called Adolf, we can all learn from each other but you guys
seem to want to exclude all who dont salute in the same way. Believe or
be cast aside has a history of creating a reaction, in fact its a system
that started with a few individuals and now will not cater for them.


Regards
John Thornton

 In message <01bf0374$b7542d20$0500a8c0@jo*>, John Grogan
<john@ro*.co*.uk*> writes
>Peter - thank you for that contribution.  I guess some of us have more
>respect for the dead than others.
>
>>John decries "desecrating war graves"--he sounds like a bureaucrat, not a
>>wreck diver.  We call it "salvage" and "preservation through recovery".  I
>>suppose that John knows best: the victims would prefer to remain unknown,
>>unremembered and their valient sacrifice uncommemorated.
>
>
>The victims have a monument erected to them.  A number of dive magazines
>have run articles outlining the tragic circumstances of the sinking.  I
>don't think pillaging their grave site qualifies as "preservation through
>recovery" and anyway, let's face it what divers remove just ends up sitting
>in their back yard for 6 months until they can be bothered to clean and then
>it sits in their house somewhere - hardly a fitting testamony to their
>memory.
>
>John.
>
>

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