>Jim, it is not fair to paint all "Lymies" with the IANTD brush - this is
>the mark of the Mouth himself through his bootboy, Kevin Gurr. Gurr is
>one of the most horrendous influences in diving. Notice they claim to be
>cave trained by Gurr - can anyone show me where Gurr is qualified to do
>anything in a cave? I serously doubt it. How about it over there in the
>UK, is this Gurr qualified to be a cave instructor , or is this more
>blantent bullshit?


Well, as we have no caves to talk off and pretty much all cave diving here
is sump diving, I don't see how he manages to get in any cave diving.  I've
often seen training trips advertised where you get the wonderful oppertunity
to train with Gurr in Florida and I think France but I've never seen any
advertisements for or even heard of expeditions to do some real cave diving.
Perhaps Tom can outline the requirements for IANTD cave instructor?

I guess that unlike rebreather and mixed gas instructor, there are no
requirements to actually do any cave diving on anything resembling a regular
basis.  Am I wrong here?

>Notice also the IANTD influence where they say they "achieved" such and
>such a "rating" ( read IANTD merritt badge). This is truly pathetic.

It gives the impression of seeking credibility.

Regards,
John.

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