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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:36:57 -0400
To: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
CC: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, techdiver@Aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: To FT or not to FT
I do valve facing me - deploying a stage bottle is a one-handed
operation . In the other hand is the line, the scooter, the anchor line,
whatever. I can spin the valve with my fingers rather than having to
grab it with the whole hand and keep "taking a new grip" if it is on the
inside ( facing away). 

I think the other guys were having some problem with the concept of the
knob being in the way of the swivel on the scuba pro regs wiht the old
valves, and then others just copied not knowing why. This is more
illusory than real - with DIN the "facing me" position is a neat
package, whereas the other is jacknifed if you are trying to get away
from the valve, or else presents the idienctial "problem" in reverse.

I like to be "face on " my connnections and o-rings, not have them
facing away from me. Anal retention is my speicalty, but then look at
the bet.

My other big reason is that when a first satge or second stage reg or
hose fails, I like to ride with my left hand on the bottle valve, with
my light in that hand, cracking the valve for each breath without moving
my light ( no fake "signals") - the "facing me" position makes that
maneuver easiest and smoothest as well as streamlined and comfortable.

There are problaly other reasons I have forgotten why I do it that way,
but this should all be on our webb page in living color.

Obvioysly, I could dive with the bottle upside down backwards and
mounted on my ass, but then lke I said, the little things become big
things when you really put the hammer down, and that is all I like to
do, so I do it right to stoart with and make it easy.
 
Kevin Connell wrote:
> 
> On Another note:
> 
> Another difference I see is that some people orient the handles (and
> therefore the bottles) to be on the "backside" of the valve so that the
> valve knob is inward, and others with the tank 180 of that, with the valve
> knob out.
> 
> I use knob out, so the valve is "facing" me.
> 
> Anyone have the pros and cons on this one?
> 
> At 01:19 PM 9/9/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi, George. Rumor has it that I am accused of "messing with your system"
> >insofar as wether to use FT or not to use FT on stage bottles. We had a
> >VBTech meeting where we discussed the DIR stage bottle rigging technique.
> >It was agreed that it was an elegant system and superior to the
> >"cockring" system and metal-to-metal connections. It was also agreed that
> >steel stages are a very bad idea. We did notice some inconsistencies with
> >how to DIR rig. The schematic layout shows a loop of cord around the
> >stage neck but on the DIR II tape a knot is used at the neck of the
> >stage. So I guess there is some leeway as to how you set up a DIR stage,
> >or is this some evolving of the system?
> >
> >So on the FT thing, we are not always able to dive on "stroke free"
> >charters, sometimes breakinng RULE #1 is part of the game. So we agreed
> >(thats "we" not "me") that it would be a good idea to add FT for 2
> >reasons:
> >
> >1. Make it absolutely clear that the number indicates MOD and not MIX.
> >2. And that we are talking FEET and not METERS (Yes, we get lots of
> >European divers).
> >
> >I really could not come up with a reason not to use FT, hell it's just a
> >couple of letters and does not effect streamlining.
> >
> >Another thing that I like about the DIR stage is that the cord makes a
> >nice carry handle for the smaller stages even though it is specified that
> >they not be used for surface carry. I use a stronger cord so that you can
> >use it as a handle, again because I could not come up with a reason not
> >to.
> >
> >So, don't mean to mess with your system, certainly the absence of
> >cockrings and steel is a major improvement. We Mid-Atlantic divers like
> >to be up to speed on new developments unlike quite a few of our Northern
> >brothers.
> >
> >  Jim
> >
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