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Sean, I think one of the reasons you don't see them used is because the divers are doing drift diving. At least for NY and NJ the reason we have so many great wrecks in one concentrated spot is because this area is the entrance to NY and Newark/Elizabeth harbors. Thinking that an approaching ship is going to be able to see your dinky lift bag or sausage is nuts. The dive boars anchor into the wreck site. Drifting means the boat's got to pick you up. Very difficult to do when the boats got other divers in the water. A container ship hit Ambrose Light tower a few years back. It stands out of the water about 150 feet and is probably 75 foot by 75 foot at the base (probably bigger). If you think they'll see a free floating bag and worry about it you'd be fish food. Using a wreck reel with 1/16 inch line on it won't really cut it either. We regularly send up artifacts on bags and tie them into the wreck with wreck or cave line and about 50% of the time we end up chasing the bag down cause the line has been cut on the wreck. I don't know about the wrecks in your area but in the NE they are all rusty and sharp. It's easily cuts through thin line quickly. Some say always use a wreck reel and tie in near the anchor line. This is also a good option assuming that a). the anchor line will be there when you return and b). your wreck line won't accidentally be cut. Anchors come dislodged from the wreck even if they are tied in or have permanent moorings. I've also seen divers get tangled in others wreck line and instead of waiting for their buddy to untangle them they whip out the knife and cut it. This naturally poses a problem to the diver expecting the wreck line to lead them back to the anchor line. I have in this situation re-tied the persons wreck line. Not bashing just giving the reasoning for carrying an up-reel of some type. I really don't want to start up another "Jersey Up-Reel" thread. This one was tiresome last time. Art. -----Original Message----- From: Sean T. Stevenson [mailto:ststev@un*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 1:41 AM To: goindown@be*.ne* Cc: George Irvine; Jim Cobb; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: Jersey Up Line I can't tell if this is a tongue in cheek sarcastic reply or if this guy really didn't get the joke. If it is the latter case, might I suggest quitting diving and taking up golf... Chris, seriously... these upline reels are completely unnecessary. I'm guessing you are diving on the Atlantic coast? Take a look at how everyone else in the world does this and ask yourself why you do not see these upline reels used anywhere else. -Sean On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:18:55 -0400, Chris Gregory wrote: >Would that same buddy be there to retrieve it should you need to shoot a >bag, and if he's not available what are the "DIR" alternatives? >Chris > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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