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To: ddoolett@me*.ad*.ed*.au* (David Doolette)
Subject: Re: bubble trapping, was Re[3]: Australian O2 protcol.
From: <bob.talbot@ae*.or*.uk*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 11:58:21 +0000
David,

Well, you don't like my hypothesis - can you come up with an 
alternative one or do you discount the anecdotal observations it 
attempted to address?

#This is not so.  There is little (or no?, comments Prime Ra?) evidence that 
#bubbles trap in the arterial circulation.  One workers calculations suggest 
#that the bubble, which would be tubular in shape, would need to extend 
#through three generations of arteries before they would trap.

Firstly, if bubbles were to lodge at all I would imagine them to do so 
in arterioles/capillaries: I didn't mean to imply they could get 
trapped in the arteries themselves. If this trapping can't happen, 
then how does the lung normally trap the so-called "silent bubbles" 
present in the pulmonary artery?

Secondly, lack of evidence don't always mean something ain't true.

#Bubbles are a problem if untrapped, they activate the  complement and kinin 
#systems and damage the blood vessel endothelium.

That's why I said simplistically, and I didn't suggest that bubble 
trapping was the only factor involved.
Were your assertion correct, then why would arterial bubbles be 
considered more of a problem (PFO and the like) than venous ones per 
se?  Are the complement and kinin systems only activated on the 
passage of bubbles through capillaries? 

Bob Talbot

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