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At 08:50 PM 17/8/99 +0100, Grant Jones wrote: >billy wrote:, > >>How can standing on the sidelines furiously waving your >>handkerchief at every perceived breach of your outmoded >>standard of ettiquette possibly help anyone "see clearly >>the DIR message"? > > "Ha Ha, your mate died, stroke" - is that your idea of etiquette ? Don't dick me. It never happened. And if anything like it did, I'd ignore it and move to the part of the message that told me "why he died...." > So why not use this list and the vast information that some of the >people using it have, and get in there first ?. Because it takes time to work through the bullshit and hyperbole, to analyse the information and to reach a conclusion. > I know lots of *new* divers come and look at this list to read what the >*top techie guys* have to say, all they see are mud flinging and slagging >match's, not many of them are here long enough to learn anything - IMO thats >a waste. That's absolute bullshit. All YOU see is mud flinging and slagging. But there's a lot more than that going on in these lists. It depends where you choose focus. You can look the dust on the venetian blinds or the view through them. >>b) the DIR equipment configuration and protocols have been >>designed by the most accomplished divers in the world, for >>the use of all divers, to eliminate death by strokery. > > I agree, but what good is that if you don't spread the word?, instead of >trying to score points with other *agencies*, or groups Because the "other *agencies*, or groups" as you put it, are often part of the problem. Some of them actually cause deaths. Then we go through all the bullshit while they try to hide the facts. I'm still amazed at the conspiracy of lies and misinformation that TDI constructed around Rob Palmer's death. If the fact that it was actually a deep air death had not been stated so forcefully and vigorously, in a tone that cut through all the *agency* bullshit, the truth would have been buried under a wall of orchestrated lies. As it was, it took a year and a half before anyone broke the silence and confirmed that it was, indeed, a deep air death. Tell me the world's changed. Tell me TDI has introduced an Honesty policy. Tell me the *agencies* reject strokery and fire unsafe instructors. > > I'm glad that you actually read and digest what I'm trying to say - >others post, then think - but I hate to think that because of egos and >infantile behaviour, some one might die, due to lack of knowledge. That's exactly why the case for safety has to be so loudly, forcefully and sometimes, brutally, put. rgds billyw -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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