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John, thanks for the reply. By the way, how is Terry doing with his new roomate, are *any* of the guys on this expedition straight? Do you guys put a sign "if this boat's rockin', don't bother knockin'" on the boat when it's in port? Also I hear that you guys put air in your back tanks and use trimix in the side bottles? WTF? Is that some sort of middle-ages retro tech diving? Say it ain't so! Jim Sender: John Chluski Date: 8/14/99 10:10 AM >Jim, > >Relax and get your facts from accurate sources, not just from a TV news >segment. $20 million is more than the entire yearly budget for the >administration for >all of NOAA's marine sanctuaries (about 14 million in 1997) and was the >estimate for bringing the wreck up which is obviously not realistic. > >While you and a few other tax payers who have the skills to visit the site >would prefer to leave the artifacts where they are, consider for a moment >that on any given day there are more tax payers who visit the Monitor >collection at the museum than the total number of divers who have ever >visited the site. Civil War buffs (taxpayers too) probably only out number >tech divers about 5,000 to 1 (guestimate). > >Last year's expedition was used to a large extent for the Navy's salvage >divers to train on a new mixed gas surface supplied system. Perhaps they >should have just spent tax payer dollars on sand dives instead... > >The work up dives are primarily for NOAA/NURC/NURP divers who have seen that >open circuit provides a more cost effective method of conducting marine >archeology than surface supplied or submersible operations under certain >conditions. Should this rationale offend you I would suggest that you could >save more tax dollars by squawking at Wood's Hole, Harbour Branch, Scripp's, >etc. The intital training for the divers involved in this year's project >was provided at no cost to you or any other tax payers and involved >significant time and expense on the part of many volunteers. Perhaps >instead of a rational methodology of training, they should just have jumped >in and dove the Monitor without work up dives. > >Judging by your comments, I take it that you are completely against the >recovery of any artifacts... and have never been involved in any project >that has recovered artifacts... and thus support a current resolution >before the UN that would effectively make it very difficult for anyone to >dive most wrecks. Personally, I prefer to see the artifacts where they are, >but I also recognise that I am not the only tax payer who would have an >interest in such things. And just maybe an artifact found today sitting on >the sand was not there yesterday and will not be there tomorrow... > >So instead of ransacking all marine museums to throw all the collections >back into the sea, perhaps we can chill a little and see that your $0.02 and >my $0.02 amounts to a total of $0.04... > >Personally, I like the Monitor web site. I like your trimix site too and >have found it useful. I would suspect, however, that there may be more >people who are more interested in the Monitor site due to its significance >to naval history and the Civil War. Not on this list perhaps, but the >world is a little bigger than techdiver@aquanuat.com. > >Regards, John > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >To: John Chluski <undersea@ga*.ne*>; Andrew Cohen <Andrew.Cohen@no*.go*>; >Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 5:28 PM >Subject: Re: Fwd:Update on August Expedition to Monitor NMS > > >>Hey, John, I don't know about you, but I am a diver and I prefer to see >>my artifacts underwater and not on dry land. And it is particularly >>galling to see $20,000,000.00 of my tax dollars going into the "eliminate >>the monitor" project. By the way, that web site is really lame, glad to >>see that they are not pissing away the money on a wasteful decent web >>site. They are saving it to be used for rigorous "work-up dives" to the >>Proteus. Oh, my what scientific research. What a scam. Another >>pork-barrel project to benefit the few and paid for by the many. >> >> Jim >> >>Sender: John Chluski Date: 8/14/99 4:33 AM > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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