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John, do you think NOAA could bring up the "Doria" while they are at it? John Chluski wrote: > > Jim, > > Relax and get your facts from accurate sources, not just from a TV news > segment. $20 million is more than the entire yearly budget for the > administration for > all of NOAA's marine sanctuaries (about 14 million in 1997) and was the > estimate for bringing the wreck up which is obviously not realistic. > > While you and a few other tax payers who have the skills to visit the site > would prefer to leave the artifacts where they are, consider for a moment > that on any given day there are more tax payers who visit the Monitor > collection at the museum than the total number of divers who have ever > visited the site. Civil War buffs (taxpayers too) probably only out number > tech divers about 5,000 to 1 (guestimate). > > Last year's expedition was used to a large extent for the Navy's salvage > divers to train on a new mixed gas surface supplied system. Perhaps they > should have just spent tax payer dollars on sand dives instead... > > The work up dives are primarily for NOAA/NURC/NURP divers who have seen that > open circuit provides a more cost effective method of conducting marine > archeology than surface supplied or submersible operations under certain > conditions. Should this rationale offend you I would suggest that you could > save more tax dollars by squawking at Wood's Hole, Harbour Branch, Scripp's, > etc. The intital training for the divers involved in this year's project > was provided at no cost to you or any other tax payers and involved > significant time and expense on the part of many volunteers. Perhaps > instead of a rational methodology of training, they should just have jumped > in and dove the Monitor without work up dives. > > Judging by your comments, I take it that you are completely against the > recovery of any artifacts... and have never been involved in any project > that has recovered artifacts... and thus support a current resolution > before the UN that would effectively make it very difficult for anyone to > dive most wrecks. Personally, I prefer to see the artifacts where they are, > but I also recognise that I am not the only tax payer who would have an > interest in such things. And just maybe an artifact found today sitting on > the sand was not there yesterday and will not be there tomorrow... > > So instead of ransacking all marine museums to throw all the collections > back into the sea, perhaps we can chill a little and see that your $0.02 and > my $0.02 amounts to a total of $0.04... > > Personally, I like the Monitor web site. I like your trimix site too and > have found it useful. I would suspect, however, that there may be more > people who are more interested in the Monitor site due to its significance > to naval history and the Civil War. Not on this list perhaps, but the > world is a little bigger than techdiver@aquanuat.com. > > Regards, John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > To: John Chluski <undersea@ga*.ne*>; Andrew Cohen <Andrew.Cohen@no*.go*>; > Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: Fwd:Update on August Expedition to Monitor NMS > > >Hey, John, I don't know about you, but I am a diver and I prefer to see > >my artifacts underwater and not on dry land. And it is particularly > >galling to see $20,000,000.00 of my tax dollars going into the "eliminate > >the monitor" project. By the way, that web site is really lame, glad to > >see that they are not pissing away the money on a wasteful decent web > >site. They are saving it to be used for rigorous "work-up dives" to the > >Proteus. Oh, my what scientific research. What a scam. Another > >pork-barrel project to benefit the few and paid for by the many. > > > > Jim > > > >Sender: John Chluski Date: 8/14/99 4:33 AM > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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