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From: "Rich Lesperance" <richl@ma*.co*>
To: "Taylor, John" <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Help: long hose for recreational setup
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:57:53 -0400
Sounds a little off -

When the hose leaves your first stage, it is going to the _left_ (as worn)?
The hose should be leaving the first stage to your lower right (as worn). If
you take your tanks off, turn around and look at it, then you should see the
hose going off to the 7:00 position or so (lower left), but not _as worn_.

There's a pic on Halcyon's web page that shows a single first stage set up
on a tank for recreational diving - if you look, you can make out where the
yellow hose leaves the first stage - that's about where yours should be
(http://www.halcyon.net/bc-page.html)

If I misunderstood your explanation, and your hose _is_ routed that way, I
have no idea why you would find a 5' hose too short - I'm 5'9'', and
although I have been compared to Arnold once or twice (ok, ok, Arnold from
"Happy Days"), the 5' hose worked well for me when properly routed.

Rich L

----- Original Message -----
From: Taylor, John <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 6:06 AM
Subject: RE: Help: long hose for recreational setup


> Guys,
>
> Help me out here in case I've got it all wrong. On my single tank set up I
> have the long hose come to the left from the first stage, down the side
and
> then underneath the tank/wing, across the torso back to the left, around
the
> neck and into the mouth from the right. With a seven foot hose this is
very
> comfortable, a five foot would be much too short. Am I DIW? BTW, I am 5ft
> 5ins tall with only 38 in chest, so am no Schwartzenegger :(
>
> JT
> --
> John Taylor, Marketing and Trading Systems, IT Development
> Credit Suisse Financial Products (Hong Kong) Ltd, 13F, Tower 3, Exchange
> Square, Central, Hong Kong
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email:
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>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: S I L E N T  I M M E R S I O N [SMTP:silent@cu*.ne*]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 11:35 AM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: Help: long hose for recreational setup
> >
> > 5 ft is fine. We have 5ft long hoses on all our rental sets, so a large
> > variety of people wear them with single alu 80's and never the hose is
too
> > short. There is enough slack on the hose and it does not pull out from
the
> > mouth when you look to the far left.
> > Maybe we get some guy in the future that has a wide enough chest... I
> > really doubt it... I would go for a 7ft then and put the excess hose
under
> > the knife pocket, my personal setup when diving single tank without
> > cannister.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > THOMAS
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:42 PM 8/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Possibly, I dive doubles.  I wouldn't think moving the first stage 5 or
> > so
> > >inches to the left would make that much of a difference but I guess it
> > does.
> > >I know that with doubles I have what seems like plenty of slack when
> > looking
> > >to the extreme left.  Guess a 6 footer or doubles are the only answer
as
> > I
> > >don't think anyone makes a 5.5 footer.  Here's a stupid question, you
are
> > >routing your second stage hose down and to the right, correct?  Only
> > reason
> > >asked this was that initially I had the hose going out at a 90 degree
> > angle
> > >to the right and it was a little tight.  This would be the most
> > comfortable
> > >set up when diving a short hose.  Once I angled it down it solved the
> > >problem.  Also makes for much tighter hose routing and less chance of
> > >getting hung up on something.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the info.
> > >Art.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Graham [mailto:Grahabr@LA*.WH*.CO*]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 4:07 PM
> > > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > Subject: RE: Help: long hose for recreational setup
> > >
> > > I use a 5 foot hose in open ocean when using single tank
> > >config. (no pen, no deco, no can. light).    For me, it's not long
enough
> > to
> > >go under armpit before around neck.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce Graham
> > > 213/620-7776
> > > grahabr@la*.wh*.co*
> > >
> > > Who do you think you are, herking and jerking around like
> > >some kind of lagoon creature?
> > >
> > > >>> "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*> 08/13/99 11:15AM >>>
> > > Single tank means no caves or penetration.  This being said
> > >it's agreed that
> > > a 7 footer is way too long for the job.  The 7 foot hose is
> > >so that your
> > > buddy can breath while following on your fins.  In the open
> > >ocean you'll be
> > > side by side and a 5 footer is recommended.
> > >
> > > With no canister and a 5 foot hose just route it from the
> > >post, under the
> > > right arm pit up and around the neck and into your mouth.  I
> > >dive this way
> > > and it's very comfortable.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Art.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alexander, Chris   HSD
> > >[mailto:alexanc@hs*.ut*.co*]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:31 AM
> > > To: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
> > > Subject: Help: long hose for
> > >recreational setup
> > >
> > > How should one route a 7ft hose to breath as
> > >a primary using
> > > a single alum
> > > 80 recreational setup with no canister
> > >light?  I have a
> > > standard length USD
> > > octopus on a necklace, a USD SEA4 first
> > >stage, and a Zeagle
> > > Concept BC
> > > (integrated weights).  I do no-decom dives
> > >in New England
> > > with a wetsuit.  I
> > > want to go with a long hose after an
> > >incident as a donor
> > > last season (short
> > > hose caused much difficulty managing the low
> > >on air
> > > situation on the anchor
> > > line during a "safety" stop).  Thanks.
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