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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:00:13 -0400
From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: scubait@ix*.ne*.co*
CC: rebreather@nw*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, wwm@sa*.ne*
Subject: Re: Fw: Drager dolphin
Garret, the fact is YOU ARE NOT a Halcyon dealer. The fact is I do not
use drugs of any kind, and have not for decades. 

You , on the other hand, are in fact a broke dick nothing, who smokes
cigarettes constantly to the point where your rotting teeth are stained
the color of your asshole, and your foul breath is enough to gag a
magot.

You are a pathetic excuse for a cadaver, let alone a human being, you
are a two bit dive instructor who is constantly trying to schnorr gear
and deals from anyone, and it is a tribute to Draeger that they have you
"on board". This should serve as an advertisement to anyone who looks
that this is what they DO NOT WANT. 

You are a power of the worst example in our sport, and a well-known
stroke. By the way, yuo must have me confused with Tom Mouth's son. 

Garrett Weinberg wrote:
> 
> George:
> 
> Engage your brain (or are you suffering from a cocaine flashback that
temporarily
> disengaged your cognitive powers) and get your facts straight before you -
like
> Dan Volker - run your mouth off.
> 
> (1) It was inevitable that you would spew forth with your comments after Dan
got a
> spanking. It was never a question of "if" but rather a question of "when".
> 
> (2) I am a Halycon dealer. You may not be aware of it, but Halycon sells
products
> other than rebreathers. If you got a problem with me being a Halycon dealer, I
> suggest that you speak to RMC. I sell Halycon gear and I do so as an
authorized
> dealer and under the full terms and conditions of my dealer agreement with
> Halycon..
> 
> So, your statement that I am not a Halycon dealer is a lie. Plain and simple
- a
> lie. Are you willing to admit that you "misspoke" on this one or do you want
to
> get my Halycon dealership revoked so that the next time you post about me not
> being a Halycon dealer it will be true?
> 
> (3) I never said that I dive a Halycon rebreather. I never said anything
about the
> Halycon rebreather. Unlike Dan, I don't knock a product that I have no
experience
> on. If you can find a statement in my message that hints or suggests that I
have
> dove a Halycon rebreather,  please do so.
> 
> Are you willing to admit that you "stretched" the truth yet again on this
point.
> Golly gee George, caught in a second lie - and in one e-mail.
> 
> (4) I said that rebreathers should be mission specific. Actually, the exact
words
> that I used were:
> 
> "All rebreathers are designed for a specific purpose. Figure out precisely 
where
> and why you want to use rebreathers and then post the question again."
> 
> Please be so kind as to tell me what is incorrect in that statement. I don't
think
> that any rebreather designer/manufacturer - including RMC - would disagree
with
> the statement.
> 
> (5) I own an dive a Drager rebreather. Whether you like the unit or not - and
> frankly I don't give a rats shit about you misleading statements (I would say
lies
> but everyone knows that you never ever lie), but I do have some knowledge and
> experience on the Drager. You may not like the unit, the unit may not meet
your
> needs, you may not like me - none of which really matters - but that doesn't
> change the fact that for many people, it is a affordable, safe, pleasurable
> recreational rebreather
> 
> (6) Why won't Dan tell this group what his experience level is on the Halycon
> rebreather. It appears that he couldn't respond about his experience on the
> Halycon rebreather cause he has none or very little so he let loose the
> foaming-at-the-mouth-ankle-nipping-Ivrine-dog to come to his defense.
> 
> (7) Once again, the only opinion that counts in this world is the glorious
word of
> truth from the master himself. Anyone who disagrees is either farm animal
stupid
> or a "broke dick instructor".
> 
> (8) If I have foul breath, it obviously comes from inadvertently breathing the
> shit the you spew forth on a regular and consistent basis.
> 
> George:
> 
> Tell me the time and date in which to meet at 34th street and Herald Square.
I'm
> sure that Macy's will donate window space while you kiss my ass. Or, is your
> promise of kissing ass in Macy's window if proven incorrect yet another lie
told
> by the master?
> 
> And please, tell you alter ego MrClark96 (or what-ever fake e-mail name that
you
> lurk under)  not to bother sending me an e-mail threatening to come to
Seattle to
> kill me. The last time he did this, I offered to pay for his ticket so he
could
> come to Seattle and kick my but somehow he never showed up.
> 
> Katherine Irvine wrote:
> 
> > Weinberg - you have no information of any value to anyone on this
> > planet. You are not a Halcyon dealer, you do not have a Halcyon, you
> > have no buisness discussing it. You have no buinsess discussing anything
> > or anyone - you have zero knowledge or experience on which to base any
> > of your bullshit. You are a broke dick dive instructor with rotting
> > teeth and foul breath who does more to damage this sport and its image
> > than most. You are a disgusting disgrace that noboyd woould want
> > representing their product, and the very last in the case of Halcyon.
> > Your arrogance is clearly due to the fact that you feel safe over on the
> > rb list with the rest of the fakers and bullshitters. In the real world,
> > you don't cut it, and neither do any of them so far to date.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Garrett Weinberg <scubait@ix*.ne*.co*>
> > > To: rebreather@nw*.co* <rebreather@nw*.co*>
> > > Cc: Manolito Lopez <manolito@mo*.co*>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 6:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Drager dolphin
> > >
> > > >There is only one piece of advice that comes to mind when reading any
> > > >statement that comes from Dan Volker - "Don't waste our time"
> > > >
> > > >Dan conveniently forget to tell you that the company that he works for
> > > >manufactureres and sells the Halycon. Not exactly a piece of unbiased
> > > >information.
> > > >
> > > >Thus, to keep all things above board, I should tell you that:
> > > >
> > > >(a) I teach the Draeger Atlantis/Dolphin/Ray
> > > >(b) I am a Draeger dealer
> > > >(c) I am also a Halycon dealer
> > > >
> > > >Having said all of that.
> > > >
> > > >All rebreathers are designed for a specific purpose. Figure out precisely
> > > >where and why you want to use rebreathers and then post the question
again.
> > > >
> > > >Maybe, with a better understanding of what you want to do we can give you
> > > more
> > > >meaningful insights rather than the standard Volker dribble.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dan Volker wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> There's only one piece of advice that comes to mind--you've probably
> > > heard
> > > >> it on TV...."Just Say No"...to the Drager.
> > > >> Buying an inexpensive death trap is no bargain.
> > > >>
> > > >> Look into  the Halcyon II .
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Dan Volker
> > > >>
> > > >> At 01:04 AM 8/8/99 +0800, Manolito Lopez wrote:
> > > >> >Hi guys, I'm very new to the list, I'm not even a rebreather diver,
> > > >> >however I am planning to get a one this month.  A lot of people in my
> > > >> >area has been buying the Drager dolphin, I wanted to know from you the
> > > >> >experts what you think of it.  Presently I'm doing my technical nitrox
> > > >> >class, I'm planning on getting into trimix a few months from now.  I
> > > >> >have been diving since 1991 and have 350 dives.  I  live and dive in
the
> > > >> >Philippines.  My only worry is that the dolphin is only limited to
> > > >> >recreational limits.  And the other units I know of like the halcyon
and
> > > >> >cis-lunar are way too expensive.  I hope you guys could help me here.
I
> > > >> >don't want to make  a mistake by buying the wrong toy.  Thanks in
> > > >> >advance.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >manolito
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> Dan Volker
> > > >> SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL
> > > >> "The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video"
> > > >> http://www.sfdj.com
> > > >>  561-547-9685
> > > >
> > > >

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