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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 08:02:23 -0700
To: "Dell Motes" <dell@di*.co*>
From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: Re: HID Light Question
Cc: techdiver@Aquanaut.com
Dell, I think the WKPP guys carry a backup slug because it would be pretty 
uncomfortable doing a 2 hour exit on backup lights for something like a 
broken bulb or test tube.

For normal dives, no backup slug needed.

At 10:17 AM 8/5/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>I've been diving several different designs of HID for several years now. The
>configuration is the same. One primary HID, two backups on the shoulder
>straps. Why would I need a backup primary / halogen ?? The HID IS LESS
>LIKELY TO FAIL. You are more likely to have difficulty starting the bulb
>when you first get in the water.(Start it before you need it). Once ignited,
>they outperform halogen in every way. If you carry an extra because an E/O
>cord may un-plug, thats' a design characteristic, not " the norm" for HID
>lighting. Was it "the norm" to do this with halogen before HID?? E/O cords
>have been rarely used for this type of diving, for obvious reasons.(Cost
>being one issue) Yes, they require more attention when used in salt water.
>You typically have to keep them lubricated to prevent corrosion or
>oxidation, which makes it easy to accidentally separate them. Cord length is
>determined by a waist mounted light. (Is there another way ;-) A 14 amphr
>pack will burn one for close to 7 hours, a 7 amphr will go 3 hours. With a
>buddy team, the amount of redundancy is still there, without adding more (?)
>gear.
>You want to shoot video, you slap a lumidyne reflector on it that was
>clipped off when not in use. No big deal, highly effective and efficient.
>I don't know about the other manufacturers, our warranty is the same as
>always. We don't warranty any bulb, halogen or otherwise, the electronics
>carry a year from Welch Allyn themselves and us. (Provided there has been NO
>tampering, same other obvious limitations apply). These are not user
>serviceable. When in doubt, LEAVE IT ALONE, and send it back. This will
>maintain your warranty, and you'll be happy. If you don't want to hassle
>with a small shipping charge for a several hundred dollar system, DON'T BUY
>IT.
>Stick with your everyday, garden variety, halogen.
>A word of caution when wiring up an E/O type design. CORRECT POLARITY IS
>VITAL. That is the first thing that will fry a ballast, your done, no
>questions asked.
>In standard lighting, polarity is only an issue when charging.
>Input polarity is crucial in HID.
>Our current design has the ballast integrated in the lid, fully potted to
>help prevent water damage.( This has been highly effective in testing and
>field use). The bulb and ballast are effectively isolated from each other,
>therefore your most likely to have to replace only one of them in the event
>of some type of failure. You bust a lens, chances are the bulb may be the
>only thing compromised. Even then, your bulb may be O.K. as long as there is
>no mechanical damage to it.  The power cord design goes along way toward
>preventing water traveling throughout the entire system.
>Dell Motes
>Dive Rite
>117 W.Washington St.
>Lake City, Florida 32055
>www.dive-rite.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
>To: Dvrcraig@ao*.co* <Dvrcraig@ao*.co*>
>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:11 PM
>Subject: Re: HID Light Question
>
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >    A common practice when diving with a HID is to carry a backup in
> >your pocket. The backup is your typical 50W halogen bulb, socket, test
> >tube with an e/o pig tail.
> >
> >    If you are diving in the optimal dive team you should have two other
> >buddys lights brightly glowing while you make a fairly fast switch if
> >such an event should acure. Beside your two buddies light you should
> >also have at least two back up lights,to possibly signal those buddies.
> >This dive team should have a minimum of 9 lights.
> >
> >    Until something better comes along this looks as though it will be
> >the norm. You may want to check with the light manufacturer as far as
> >warrenty goes but good luck on the HID units. These seem to be for the
> >big boys with big bucks doing big dives.
> >
> >     John
> >
> >
> >
> >Dvrcraig@ao*.co* wrote:
> >>
> >> Since the HID light is not capable of a hot re-strike. What will happen
> >> if you accidentally catch your light cord on something, causing the EO
> >> connector to become unplugged? I imagine you are going to be sitting in
> >> the dark for a while. But what effect will it have on the integrity of
> >> the system particularly in salt water?
> >>
> >> Also since the HID retrofit is using components from other light
> >> manufactures, who covers the warranty issues. Does this modification of
> >> an existing light system void all warranties?  All opinons entertained.
> >>
>Craig
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