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Hang out on this list for a long while and you will begin to see a pattern repeat itself over and over again.... - You will see the personal preference crowd continue to dive using sub optimal or maybe even dangerous configurations. - You will see the the solo diving crowd continue to defend their right to risk their lives. - You will continue to see the occasional death. - You will see the DIR crowd continue to promote a better and safer method. After seeing this cycle repeat itself time after time I cannot help but understand the frustrations of George Irvine and company who have spoken out so many times in the past against unsafe practices and still continue to do so. Safety is everyone's concern. Mat --- jccalvin <jccalvin@pa*.ne*> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: tgunther@co*.co* <tgunther@co*.co*> > To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: Doria Count? > > > >George Irvine: > > > >The reputation of the WKPP in the industry is well > established. Your > >professional record is beyond dispute. But like > others, I find myself > >wondering why such ingenue behaviour is necessary > when recounting > unfortunate > >deaths within the community? Is it really > necessary to scurry around > like a > >little June Beetle that takes advantage of all the > carnage around itself? > Is > >such insolent chest-beating truly important in > situations like this..... > > Greetings: > > As a student of technical diving (two years of > training and experience AND > no intent to dive the Doria soon) I am compelled to > support Mr. Gunther's > posting. Reading Mr. Irvine's posts and getting > past the ODD presentation > is a significant challenge. I always read the posts > carefully and having > discarded the extraneous chatter, carefully evaluate > (and usually follow) > the diving advise. > > I must say I am rather puzzled by Mr. Irvine's > presentation style. I spent > two tours in Vietnam working with Special Forces and > a few seals on > intelligence operations and eight years as a police > officer. I have never > encountered anyone who was really good at a > dangerous and intellectually > demanding activity (as Mr. Irvine obviously is) who > communicates with his > particular approach. They were almost always > low-key and friendly (assuming > you were not one of there targets :>). Generally > people who talk like this > would really like to be accepted as one of the group > but are clearly not > qualified. As Mr. Irvine's qualifications are not > questionable the puzzle > remains. > > regards, > > John. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. === M-Plan - Free-Ware dive planning software utilizing the Buhlmann ZHL-16 algorithm at: mailto:mbloedorn@ya*.co* http://www3.sympatico.ca/bloedorn _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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