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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:57:15 -0400
To: Case <diveman@cy*.co*>,
     "George P. Wentland"
From: Joel Silverstein <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>
Subject: Re: innertubes
Cc: techdive@ea*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
We use an old paper cutter (the big heavy kind without safety guard) I got
at a garage sale ($3 bucks) we put a razor edge on it and can make 1.5 inch
straight cuts in most innertube all day long.  Each cylinder gets three
bands. When the gear is washed off the bands get washed too. When they get
old and cruddy -- throw them out and put new ones on. Keep a mess of them
in your gear box too someone always shows up with surgical tubing and needs
to be corrected, better to just give them three bands then to try to
explain the rational -- they get the point pretty quickly. 

regards 
jds 




At 03:03 PM 6/5/1999 -0400, Case wrote:
>Hi all...sorry for all the cc's....that "reply all" button is just SO
>convenient!
>
>George-
>
>What kind of problems do you have with innertube in salt water?  I dive
>heavily in salt water, and am well aware of how damaging the marine
>environment can be. I've had no problems with properly fitting innertube
>sections. I cut mine approx. 2 "thumb-widths" (I know....very precise,
>technical measurement!) wide, with a VERY sharp Spyderco knife...between
>each segment, I cut a small wedge so that the cuts stay as perpendicular
>as possible to the inner and outer rim of the tube.
>
>I've tried a few other things, and surgical tubing is definately out. I
>like bungie, but just like the surgical tubing, it does have a tendancy
>to "roll" along on the cylinder. Besides, a couple feet of good bungie,
>and half a dozen tie wraps (shouldn't we be using cave line for this?
>*GRIN*) needed to make one set, cost me about the same as a whole
>innertube needed for many years worth of diving.
>
>I'm curious as to what kind of problems you've had, as maybe you've run
>into something that I've overlooked....?
>
>-Case
>diveman@cy*.co*
>
>"George P. Wentland" wrote:
>> 
>>     I use three tie wraps to hold the ends of the bungee cord together. I
>> never had problems with inner tubes either when I was diving in the Great
>> Lakes, but when I moved to saltwater the problems began. Also if you get a
>> little catch on the inner tube band it will readily tear at that point.
>>     I notice that you have not addressed the nylon mesh which I place
around
>> the hose clamp.
>> 
>> Good Diving by George
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
>> To: George Wentland <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>
>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 1:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: innertubes
>> 
>> > Sorry George,
>> >
>> >     But I have to say - BRAVO SIERRA to that.  Inner tubes don't have an
>> > end to tie wrap, they fit real close to the cylinder, and with one small
>> > car intertube you can make a couple years worth of retaining straps.  I
>> > don't know what type of tubes you have tried but the ones that I have
>> > bought at pep boys auto supply (don't know if their national)as well as
>> > pieces that buddies have given me last a hell of a long time.  Maybe
>> > your cutting then to thin.
>> >
>> >     And YES, we dive alot.
>> >
>> >
>> >    Choi,
>> >         John
>> >
>> >
>> > George Wentland wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I have had more problems with inner tubes breaking from being rotton
>> > > > than bungee cords rolling off. Inner tubes in my mind are unsafe
>> unless
>> > > > they are replaced every couple of months. Actually I have never had a
>> > > > bungee cord roll off.
>> > > > Good Diving by George
>> >
>> 
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