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From: "Eric Rosenkrantz" <ericr@gi*.ne*>
To: "George Wentland" <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: innertubes
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 06:32:13 -0400
Just to add my 2 cents - instead of cable ties - I had my dive shop owner
use stainless hog rings to fasten the bungie - works well and will outlast
the bungie .


Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: George Wentland <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: innertubes


>     I have used surgical tubing also and do not have much use for it, but
I do
> like bungee cord. I have two bungee cords on each of my tanks. When I
bought my
> motorcycle innertube it cost me like $18 a few years ago. I cut 1.5 inch
bands out
> of it using a utility knife and a board.. The only kind of innertubes I
could get
> for free were car tubes, which were too big. I can buy quite a few feet of
bulk
> bungee cord for $18.
>     One other aspect, bungee cord is easier to grab with a gloved hand as
it
> stands off of the tank. Inner tubes lay relativly flat, making it harder
to tuck
> the air hose under.
>
> Good Diving by George
>
> Joel Silverstein wrote:
>
> > We use an old paper cutter (the big heavy kind without safety guard) I
got
> > at a garage sale ($3 bucks) we put a razor edge on it and can make 1.5
inch
> > straight cuts in most innertube all day long.  Each cylinder gets three
> > bands. When the gear is washed off the bands get washed too. When they
get
> > old and cruddy -- throw them out and put new ones on. Keep a mess of
them
> > in your gear box too someone always shows up with surgical tubing and
needs
> > to be corrected, better to just give them three bands then to try to
> > explain the rational -- they get the point pretty quickly.
> >
> > regards
> > jds
> >
> > At 03:03 PM 6/5/1999 -0400, Case wrote:
> > >Hi all...sorry for all the cc's....that "reply all" button is just SO
> > >convenient!
> > >
> > >George-
> > >
> > >What kind of problems do you have with innertube in salt water?  I dive
> > >heavily in salt water, and am well aware of how damaging the marine
> > >environment can be. I've had no problems with properly fitting
innertube
> > >sections. I cut mine approx. 2 "thumb-widths" (I know....very precise,
> > >technical measurement!) wide, with a VERY sharp Spyderco
knife...between
> > >each segment, I cut a small wedge so that the cuts stay as
perpendicular
> > >as possible to the inner and outer rim of the tube.
> > >
> > >I've tried a few other things, and surgical tubing is definately out. I
> > >like bungie, but just like the surgical tubing, it does have a tendancy
> > >to "roll" along on the cylinder. Besides, a couple feet of good bungie,
> > >and half a dozen tie wraps (shouldn't we be using cave line for this?
> > >*GRIN*) needed to make one set, cost me about the same as a whole
> > >innertube needed for many years worth of diving.
> > >
> > >I'm curious as to what kind of problems you've had, as maybe you've run
> > >into something that I've overlooked....?
> > >
> > >-Case
> > >diveman@cy*.co*
> > >
> > >"George P. Wentland" wrote:
> > >>
> > >>     I use three tie wraps to hold the ends of the bungee cord
together. I
> > >> never had problems with inner tubes either when I was diving in the
Great
> > >> Lakes, but when I moved to saltwater the problems began. Also if you
get a
> > >> little catch on the inner tube band it will readily tear at that
point.
> > >>     I notice that you have not addressed the nylon mesh which I place
> > around
> > >> the hose clamp.
> > >>
> > >> Good Diving by George
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
> > >> To: George Wentland <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>
> > >> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 1:20 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: innertubes
> > >>
> > >> > Sorry George,
> > >> >
> > >> >     But I have to say - BRAVO SIERRA to that.  Inner tubes don't
have an
> > >> > end to tie wrap, they fit real close to the cylinder, and with one
small
> > >> > car intertube you can make a couple years worth of retaining
straps.  I
> > >> > don't know what type of tubes you have tried but the ones that I
have
> > >> > bought at pep boys auto supply (don't know if their national)as
well as
> > >> > pieces that buddies have given me last a hell of a long time.
Maybe
> > >> > your cutting then to thin.
> > >> >
> > >> >     And YES, we dive alot.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >    Choi,
> > >> >         John
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > George Wentland wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > I have had more problems with inner tubes breaking from being
rotton
> > >> > > > than bungee cords rolling off. Inner tubes in my mind are
unsafe
> > >> unless
> > >> > > > they are replaced every couple of months. Actually I have never
had a
> > >> > > > bungee cord roll off.
> > >> > > > Good Diving by George
> > >> >
> > >>
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