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At 08:44 PM 23/5/99 +0300, Club Red wrote:
>Hi Billy
>
>I reply to you, as it's true you have been very patient to me. I appreciate
>that.
>Listen to me now.
>
>I live in Egypt. In this country, there is around 300 dive clubs, 2 of them
>offering Trimix. Diver's Lodge and... ClubRed. Helium is about $.07 a liter.
>That's the price I sell it. I could hardly make it cheaper. So, if I wanted
>to be DIR it would cost me 2x$54 to go to 60m with my 2x80.
Here we go again. One more time...
Wear a set of doubles, breath a stage of mix. There.
That's cut your gas costs in half.
Then, when you get down to diving the back-gas, blow
it back with air a couple of times and you get two
more, clear-headed dives out of it, though not as deep
as the first one.
By the way, it costs me $190 for the trimix and deco
gas to do one dive on our 70+ metre wrecks.
>
>On the other hand, air singles are available under each stone around here.
>Billy, I'm 40, I have 2500 dives, maybe 800 of them around or below 60m,
>most of them on air, and I run the technical side of the operations here.
>Don't make me more stupid than I am. Double manifolds are incomparably more
>difficult to transport and have refilled compared to the singles you just
>rent on a boat. 100 tanks on the boat. No compressor. One dive and I would
>have to go to shore to refill. Is that your alternative? I then use my 15L
>tank w/H-valve for 1 dive, and then... independent singles.
And again: Fill your doubles with mix, and take
a number of stages filled with mix. On each dive,
carry a stage of mix. Breath the stage, leave the
back-gas for contingencies.
Next dive, carry a stage of mix, breath the stage,
leave the back gas for contingencies.
Finally, last dive of the trip, don't carry a stage
of mix, just breath the backgas.
Finally, when you can get to a compressor, top up
the back gas with air and you've got a mix that will
give you a couple more shallower but clear-headed
dives.
>I could go through more examples. If I was DIR I would just not dive. So
>yes, I have a much better solution than DIR. A solution which allows me to
>dive everyday.
Hugo, no-one is FORCING you to dive 60+ metres on air.
Or to do it every day. You are CHOOSING to. You are
also subjecting yourself to neurological and micro-
ciculatory damage each time you dive deep on air.
I have show you how to dive more cheaply on trimix. If
the result is still too expensive, then maybe you simply
can't afford to dive deep as often as you would like.
In the meantime, you are teaching and encouraging others
to dive deep on air.
rgrds billyw
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Now ten years later, I'm still a sportsdiver, learning
about DIR, Nitrox, Trimix, redundancy and lots of other stuff.
Finding out that there are still people, who made diving their
proffession/living, defending and teaching the same stupidity
that already killed people in the last ten years of diving and
will continue to do so untill they stop.
This again makes me sad, so lets stop them.......because
they don't care:
Robbert van der Gon Netscher
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