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From: "William Allen" <william@ca*.co*>
To: "Sean M. Cary" <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>,
     "TECH LIST"
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:06:55 -0400
Sean i don't think you could realistic blame these dives on solo diving.
Many of these were almost sucide. If you want to blame solo diving for their
deaths perhaps some research is in order. I think you'd find gas choices
combined with depth plus some personal health problems are more suspect.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean M. Cary <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
To: TECH LIST <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth


>I guess you don't read well...
>
>I SAID:
>
>You are obviously neither DIR, nor in the
>>>companionship of someone you consider a good buddy.  I observe Rule #1 on
>>>ALL TECH DIVES, period, no questions asked, zero tolerance.  If you want
>to
>>>dive solo...I'm sure Rob Palmer could use the company.
>
>RULE NUMBER ONE IS DON'T DIVE WITH STROKES....I don't do that OR dive
>SOLO...DID YOU GET IT THAT TIME???  Your arguments are invalid, get off
your
>Cyber diver ass and check out what those of us who dive EVERY WEEKEND and a
>good number of weekdays have learned.  DIR is the BEST way to dive, Tech,
>Rec. Cave etc.  Deep air, personal preference and all the other stroked out
>bullshit is DEAD.  Learn from the deaths of Andre, Mike, John, Jane, Rob
and
>the rest of the unnamed masses that learned the hard way...  Until you have
>done a DIR dive, please stop this useless argument, becuase if you did, you
>would not be arguring over stupid stuff.
>
>BTW...what is your TDI number?  Just curious.  And please stop sending me
>your drivel, once is enough on the list...I don' t need to read it twice.
>
>Sean
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*>
>To: Sean M. Cary <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 3:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
>
>
>>I could have sworn that I asked YOU whether you had ever made a solo dive?
>>All I got from you was the party line.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Diving solo is tantamount to deep air...folks do it, both are stupid and
>>>will get you killed sooner or later.  If you want to do the solo diver
>>>debate, please move to REC.SCUBA.  You are obviously neither DIR, nor in
>the
>>>companionship of someone you consider a good buddy.  I observe Rule #1 on
>>>ALL TECH DIVES, period, no questions asked, zero tolerance.  If you want
>to
>>>dive solo...I'm sure Rob Palmer could use the company.
>>>
>>>If your going to reply, please reply to REC.SCUBA, I'm sure you can find
a
>>>great argument there.
>>>
>>>Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*>
>>>To: Sean M. Cary <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
>>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:37 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
>>>
>>>
>>>>Have you ever made a solo dive?  Were you self-sufficient?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Total reliance on self-sufficiency is NOT DIR.   Let's argue about
>bungee
>>>>>wings now, or maybe bottle marking, your reply was equal to both.
>>>>>
>>>>>I forget the quote, but it is something like only a fool would be
stupid
>>>>>enough to defend themselves in court.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*>
>>>>>To: Sean M. Cary <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
>>>>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>>>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:30 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>So is DIR opposed to self-sufficiency?  Are you saying you are not
>>>>>>self-sufficient every time you go diving?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As a side point; defending yourself in court does work when you have
>>>valid
>>>>>>explanations backed up by sound reasoning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Self-sufficiency is like defending yourself in court...it does not
>work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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