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If my bottom timer fails, I do not die. If my lights fail, the odds are pretty good I die. In Wakulla, if just my primary fails AND I lose my buddy, I probably die. Again, defend your position. Why do you need the 2nd depth gauge? Will you die without it? Will you get bent without it? I will not, ocean or cave, hence it is not needed. Why do you need it? It makes you feel safer is not a good enough answer. You guys have not thought this stuff through. You are only doing what you wre taught. Why is ocean different than cave? You obviously have never done any serious cave. I feel much safer in the wide open ocean than in the confines of a cave. And I will bet I have done more serious ocean dives than you have so don't even go there. Jess -----Original Message----- From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth > >How do you reply to his argument about backup lights? >I understand the DIR concept. I just believe that a backup BT does not >violate the holgarthian system. An open ocean deco dive is a totally >different from the protected recesses of a cave where I agree DIR makes sense. > > > >>he has yet to offer a reason why he needs a second bottom timer that can not >>be accomplished with the gear I normally carry. >> >>Susan, you and he just don't get it. While this one piece of equipment may >>sound trivial to you, it is the attitude that is flawed. If you don't need >>it don't take it. >> >>Do you have a gas can sitting on the front seat of your car in case you run >>out? Then a fire extinguisher in case the gas catches fire? >> >>See what I'm saying? >> >>Trout >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> >>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> >>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:31 PM >>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth >> >> >>>I think bigvon@be* already has well defended this topic. >>> >>> >>> >>>>defend your way or find a flaw in mine. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> >>>>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> >>>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:22 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Who says what the better way is? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>One is a stroke when one hears of a better way of doing something and >>>>insists on >>>>>>doing it the old way. >>>>>> >>>>>>Jess >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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