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From: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:19:37 -0500
In one of my posts, I described a watch that I wear as a backup timer.  The
point of discussion is the backup timer/depth guage combo.

Is there anything wrong with a redundant timer/depth guage?  Well, only as a
potential entanglement hazard (remote) and as a reduction in streamlining
(minimal).  However, is there anything right with it?  I have already
described techniques that allow one to complete any dive with the normal
gear on them already without adding one more piece of gear.

This is the whole idea behind DIR...take only that which is absolutely
necessary.  A second depth guage is not absolutely necessary, especially
when you do not violate rule no.1.

Finally, one is not a stroke because of their gear configuration.  One is a
stroke when one hears of a better way of doing something and insists on
doing it the old way.

Jess

-----Original Message-----
From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut <techdiver@aquanaut>; com <com>
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth


>I mat be wrong on this but in Caverns Measureless to Man Sheck describes a
>dive in a deep cave in Mexico in which his watch accidently was dropped or
>fell off his arm.  He was forced to count time by his fingers.  When Mary
>Ellen met him at the first deco stop a safety diver could go to she went
>back up and brought him another one down.  I believe his statement after
the
>dive was he would never dive without a back up timer again.
>
>It seems to me you could play what if and come up with all sorts of
>scenerios, both logical and illogical, probable and improbable, ocean and
>cave, where a diver could lose his buddy or his buddy lose him.  Why not
put
>a small, unobtrusive back up timer for when  murphy's law decides to make a
>visit?
>
>Or better still, not consider people "strokes" if they do choose to prepare
>for the most unfortunate event of losing a buddy for whatever reason by
>adding a simple, small device to their arm which is very hogarthian.
>
>susan
>
>
>>Sheck, though the toughest diver ever to live in my opinion, was far from
>>Hogarthian/DIR.
>>
>>If you are as tough as he was, you have my permission to dive any stroked
>>out rig you desire.  Sheck could have taught you a thing or two on that
>>subject.
>>
>>Trout
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bigvon@be*.ne* <bigvon@be*.ne*>
>>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>><techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 9:30 AM
>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth
>>
>>
>>>I think that was a solo dive.  Hmmmm. no buddy?
>>>
>>>Jess Armantrout wrote:
>>>
>>>If your watch fails,  count the deco.  Sheck did this from 800+ feet at
>>>Bushmangat.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trout
>>>
>>>
>>
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