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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: "Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Jersey ascent line ???
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:44:47 -0400
Kevin,

One reason could be shipping lanes and the fact the boat is anchored
into the wreck.  Many times when doing surface you can almost read the
name of the tanker going by.  I'm not very good at judging distance but
it seems they are real close (1/4 - 1/2 mile maybe?).  They easily see
the boat on radar and give a berth but a bag they won't see and even if
they did, wouldn't be too much they could do about it.  If you're
connected to the wreck at least you're usually within 700 feet of the
boat.  What about if you're the first person in and the last person
won't be up from deco for another hour or two?  You can drift quite a
way in 2 hours.  Not all boats here have a chase boat, only the bigger
ones.

Not meant as a flame, just a reply.
Art.

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*]
		Sent:	Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:10 AM
		To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
		Subject:	Re: Jersey ascent line ???

		Although I've never dove on the east coast, I don't
understand why the
		conditions there are any different then the conditions
here in the
		northwest.  Low vis, high current, cold water.  We don't
get the swells
		inland, but I don't see why that matters.  No one here
uses an "upline".
		Liftbag and drifting deco is the norm, some keep the
hook on the wreck were
		it can unsnagged from the surface and deco on the anchor
line.


		At 08:54 AM 5/12/1999 -0400, you wrote:
		>On Wed, 12 May 1999, William Allen wrote:
		>
		>> I really believe for most Jersey divers an up line is
a good safety feature
		>> that you'll never need with proper skills. They
remind me a little of
		>> training wheels at some point they can come off.
		>
		>This completely ignores the very real possiblity of the
tie-in failing.
		>The accepted local practice requires an upline in this
case; no NY/NJ boat
		>captain is going to move back in with divers in the
water unless he can
		>see them on the surface, and drifting ascents are just
not the norm here.
		>
		>-- 
		>Art Greenberg
		>artg@ec*.ne*
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		Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>

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