This (DIR for open water) has already been covered.  Same as DIR but: 
Aluminum backplate, aluminum tank, smaller wing (18-45 lb).  Backup
buoyancy is either drysuit, or when using a wetsuit is in the form of a
jettisonable weight belt.  Tank valve and reg. are both DIN.  Long hose
for open water is only five feet long.  All hoses on same 1st stage or
can use 2 regs with an H valve.  Same style light, but for rec. diving
you only need a 6 A-h pack.

This IMO is not rushing it at all, but is the sign of a diver who takes
the time to learn the best method available before accepting the word
of the instructor.  Real smart - and as such will probably be a prime
candidate for technical training in the future.  It's good to see the
destrokifying happening so early.

-Sean


On Mon, 10 May 1999 07:24:43 -0400, David B. Widen wrote:

>Q: Just a simple question. If she is "Just OW", how far or what part of the
>DIR do you help get? I thought the DIR was a complete system.
>
>Q: Do you long hose and double up a OW diver?
>
>Q:Task loading with the configuration.
>
>Q:Would OW DIR just be the back plate and BC, long hose, second reg (open
>water know as an octopus) necklace?
>
>Q: Will start to think of herself as tech diver without the training,
>mentoring, and diving experiences.
>
>Q: Do we need George, Bill M., & JJ to define an open water DIR standard and
>configuration?
>
>I do not want to sound negative about this but is she rushing it a bit. By
>her own statement, she is s new ow diver.
>
>What does the rest of the world think? Capt J.T., Jim, other WPKK folks.
>
>R/David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xx [mailto:ombligo@xt*.ne*]
>Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 6:23 AM
>To: TechDiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: Halcyon experience in Australia?
>
>
>I have been corresponding with Cathy and she is serious about wanting to
>DIR. She mispoke about her instructor a bit... He is against long hose for
>OW rec divers and will not teach giving away the primary of rec divers
>(though he admits doing that for his cave diving).
>
>That doesn't make what he says right, but it must be remembered that he is
>the person Cathy will have to deal with (only game in town).
>
>She is not looking for tech training but rather just is starting OW, she
>just was hoping to DIR. Lets support her efforts to find and try the right
>equipment.
>
>Ron
>
>
>>Ask your "prominent cave diving instructor" how he would share gas with
>>another diver while going through a restriction which can only be
>>passed in single-file, without using a long hose.
>>
>>-Sean
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 09 May 1999 13:07:35 +0930, Cathy Spencer wrote:
>>
>>>I have talked to a local prominent cave diver instructor here, and he is
>>>dead set against the idea of a long hose. So no support there.
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