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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 18:18:47 -0700
From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
Organization: Reel Scuba
To: al wells <al_wells@ma*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: FW: Tank ID.
Al,

 What is wrong with someone trying to protect himself and his business.
Many of these people we have to deal with in retail scuba have'nt much
of a clue as to what is really going on in the technical world.  Even
so, these people have the right to protect their best interest and their
business.
  There is only ONE other sticker required required by the industry that
is not DIR.  That is the tank wrap for mixes 49% EANx or less.  The tank
wrap does give some peice of mind to those that deal solely at a
recreational level wenever some blow-hard, bad ass tech boy prances into
their shop telling them that they know everything there is to know.  The
content sticker is required on DIR tanks as well BUT the chosen method
is not an erasable sticker, it is a piece of masking tape. The other is
your common VIP sticker but one that states that the cylinder has been
cleaned for O2 service. Nothing else! Though I have conformed to the
Lrg. MOD markings(spray painted)I have opted to include the tank wrap on
my EANx bottles in order to comply with industry standards. Remember
that relationships are built on compromises.  
  Oxygen should say oxygen and IANTD does NOT require a special sticker,
just the words OXYGEN, although a sticker is available for those
interested.  The cylinder must also be either white or green and this is
a CGA specification. I choose white due to its high lux under various
conditions (visibility).
  If you are able to obtain these stickers without the proper
requirements or if you choose to slap one on any cylinder you wish to be
filled with OXYGEN with out the proper steps being taken, then you are
doing the dive industry a great disservice. 
  One misconcoption is that these tank wraps are expensive. Well they
are if you buy them through ANDI. ANDI charges approximently $15.00 USD
for them.  IANTD price, $5.00 USD.  BFD!

     Later,
     John

al wells wrote:
> 
> 
> al
> --
> 
> On Sun, 2 May 1999 12:25:12    mikejsk wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >I have several questions about tank markings.
> >
> >1: Which are actually regulated outside the scuba industry ? I know Hydro
> >dates and the stamp are controlled by the government. In other words which
> >markers are legally required ?
> >
> >2: Are there any international marking standards ? If I travel with a tank
> >through customs what is expected ? Does green and yellow mean Nitrox every
> >where?
> >
> >3: Are there any regulations on Argon cylinders ?
> >
> >4: What is required on a VIP and O2 clean sticker ? Can one fill station
> >refuse to honor a sticker because it is from another agency or country ?
> >
> >
> >I have been reading the E-mails and see valid points all through the
> >discusion. I am trying to sort out what is on my tanks because of govt
> >regulations, which are scuba politics and what would work best for my style
> >of diving.
> >
> >These discussions are rather opinionated and heated.
> >
> >As a travelling diver, I will eventually run into fill stations and charter
> >captains that require one set of markings or another.
> >
> >I am seeing a need for a broader education on this topic.
> >
> >Any information would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mike J
> >
> >
> >
> >
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